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X-OriginatorOrg: siemens.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Feb 2022 18:47:43.8392 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: e6233c3d-6cc2-4ba5-ad24-08d9e9a12928 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Id: 38ae3bcd-9579-4fd4-adda-b42e1495d55a X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalAttributedTenantConnectingIp: TenantId=38ae3bcd-9579-4fd4-adda-b42e1495d55a;Ip=[194.138.21.70];Helo=[hybrid.siemens.com] X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: DB5EUR01FT046.eop-EUR01.prod.protection.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Anonymous X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: HybridOnPrem X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DB9PR10MB4761 List-Id: X-Webhook-Received: from li982-79.members.linode.com [45.33.32.79] by aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org with HTTPS for ; Sun, 06 Feb 2022 18:47:49 -0000 X-Groupsio-URL: https://lists.cip-project.org/g/cip-dev/message/7576 On 03.02.22 08:13, nobuhiro1.iwamatsu@toshiba.co.jp wrote: > Hi Pavel, >> -----Original Message----- >> From: cip-dev@lists.cip-project.org On >> Behalf Of Pavel Machek >> Sent: Wednesday, February 2, 2022 6:33 AM >> To: jan.kiszka@siemens.com; cip-dev@lists.cip-project.org >> Subject: [cip-dev] 4.4.302 is going to be last 4.4 release >> >> Hi! >> >> Greg says: >> >> # Message-Id: <20220201180822.148370751@linuxfoundation.org> >> # Subject: [PATCH 4.4 00/25] 4.4.302-rc1 review # ... >> # NOTE! This is the proposed LAST 4.4.y kernel release to happen under # the >> rules of the normal stable kernel releases. After this one, it will # be marked >> End-Of-Life as it has been 6 years and you really should know # better by now >> and have moved to a newer kernel tree. After this one, no # more security fixes >> will be backported and you will end up with an # insecure system over time. >> # ... >> # Responses should be made by Thu, 03 Feb 2022 18:08:10 +0000. >> # Anything received after that time might be too late. >> >> (He sometimes releases kernels before the deadline). >> >> We may want to make any announcements now or just after 4.4.302 is >> released... so I guess we should start working on suitable wording. >> >> Something like: >> >> CIP project is committed to maintain 4.4.x kernel till January of 2027 [1]. We are >> maintaining -cip branch [2], that is stable kernel with about >> 1000 of patches to support our reference hardware [3] and -cip-rt branch, with >> is merge of -rt and -cip trees. >> >> If you for some reason need 4.4.x with bug and security fixes, and are running >> similar hardware to our reference hardware (x86-64 and armv7), -cip tree may >> be good base for that work. Testing of the -cip tree is welcome, as is joining the >> CIP project. >> >> [1] https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/civilinfrastructureplatform/start >> [2] >> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/cip/linux-cip.git/log/?h=linu >> x-4.4.y-cip-rt >> [3] >> https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/civilinfrastructureplatform/ciptesting/ciprefe >> rencehardware > > Thank you for taking up the issue. I think the content is fine. Looks good to me as well. Given that 4.4 is now history and Greg even mentioned CIP in his discontinuation message [1] but said that we would only "consider" to continue: Let's follow up on his post, only referring to the regular linux-4.4.y-cip for now. Who of you two could do that? > BTW, do you have any future information about the RT kernel team? > We may also need to check the RT patch. > If you don't have the information, I'll ask the RT team about this. > Why should 4.4-rt continue if its former upstream retired? Jan [1] https://lkml.org/lkml/2022/2/3/91 -- Siemens AG, Technology Competence Center Embedded Linux