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From: Ben Peart <peartben@gmail.com>
To: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	"Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com>,
	Git List <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Ben Peart <benpeart@microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/2] reset: add new reset.quietDefault config setting
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 14:11:01 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1ba81f12-7040-1ba5-2009-fa681caf9874@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874lddc9fs.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com>



On 10/23/2018 5:13 AM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Oct 17 2018, Jeff King wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 02:19:59PM -0400, Eric Sunshine wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 12:40 PM Ben Peart <peartben@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Add a reset.quietDefault config setting that sets the default value of the
>>>> --quiet flag when running the reset command.  This enables users to change
>>>> the default behavior to take advantage of the performance advantages of
>>>> avoiding the scan for unstaged changes after reset.  Defaults to false.
>>>
>>> As with the previous patch, my knee-jerk reaction is that this really
>>> feels wrong being tied to --quiet. It's particularly unintuitive.
>>>
>>> What I _could_ see, and what would feel more natural is if you add a
>>> new option (say, --optimize) which is more general, incorporating
>>> whatever optimizations become available in the future, not just this
>>> one special-case. A side-effect of --optimize is that it implies
>>> --quiet, and that is something which can and should be documented.
>>
>> Heh, I just wrote something very similar elsewhere in the thread. I'm
>> still not sure if it's a dumb idea, but at least we can be dumb
>> together.
> 
> Same here. I'm in general if favor of having the ability to configure
> porcelain command-line options, but in this case it seems like it would
> be more logical to head for something like:
> 
>      core.uiMessaging=[default,exhaustive,lossyButFaster,quiet]
> 
> Where default would be our current "exhaustive", and this --quiet case
> would be covered by lossyButFaster, but also things like the
> "--no-ahead-behind" flag for git-status.
> 

This sounds like an easy way to choose a set of default values that we 
think make sense to get bundled together. That could be a way for users 
to quickly choose a set of good defaults but I still think you would 
want find grained control over the individual settings.

Coming up with the set of values to bundle together, figuring out the 
hierarchy of precedence for this new global config->individual 
config->individual command line, updating the code to make it all work 
is outside the scope of this particular patch series.

> Just on this implementation: The usual idiom for flags as config is
> command.flag=xyz, not command.flagDefault=xyz, so this should be
> reset.quiet.
> 

Thanks, I agree and fixed that in later iterations.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-23 18:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-17 16:40 [PATCH v1 0/2] speed up git reset Ben Peart
2018-10-17 16:40 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] reset: don't compute unstaged changes after reset when --quiet Ben Peart
2018-10-17 18:14   ` Eric Sunshine
2018-10-17 18:22     ` Jeff King
2018-10-18  3:40       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-18  6:36         ` Jeff King
2018-10-18 18:15           ` Ben Peart
2018-10-18 18:26             ` Duy Nguyen
2018-10-18 19:03               ` Ben Peart
2018-10-19  0:34             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-17 16:40 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] reset: add new reset.quietDefault config setting Ben Peart
2018-10-17 18:19   ` Eric Sunshine
2018-10-17 18:23     ` Jeff King
2018-10-23  9:13       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-23 18:11         ` Ben Peart [this message]
2018-10-23 20:02           ` Jeff King
2018-10-23 20:03           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-24 15:48             ` Recommended configurations (was Re: [PATCH v1 2/2] reset: add new reset.quietDefault config setting) Derrick Stolee
2018-10-24 23:58               ` Jeff King
2018-10-25  4:09                 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-19 16:12 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] speed up git reset Ben Peart
2018-10-19 16:12   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] reset: don't compute unstaged changes after reset when --quiet Ben Peart
2018-10-19 16:12   ` [PATCH v2 2/3] reset: add new reset.quiet config setting Ben Peart
2018-10-19 16:36     ` Eric Sunshine
2018-10-19 16:46       ` Jeff King
2018-10-19 17:10         ` Eric Sunshine
2018-10-19 17:11           ` Jeff King
2018-10-19 17:23             ` Ben Peart
2018-10-19 19:08               ` Jeff King
2018-10-22  5:04               ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-19 17:11         ` Ben Peart
2018-10-19 16:12   ` [PATCH v2 3/3] reset: warn when refresh_index() takes more than 2 seconds Ben Peart
2018-10-22 13:18 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] speed up git reset Ben Peart
2018-10-22 13:18   ` [PATCH v3 1/3] reset: don't compute unstaged changes after reset when --quiet Ben Peart
2018-10-22 20:44     ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-10-22 22:07       ` Ben Peart
2018-10-23  8:53         ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-10-23 15:46         ` Duy Nguyen
2018-10-23 19:55           ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-10-22 13:18   ` [PATCH v3 2/3] reset: add new reset.quiet config setting Ben Peart
2018-10-22 14:45     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-10-23 18:47       ` Ben Peart
2018-10-24  2:56         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-24  7:21           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-24 14:54           ` Duy Nguyen
2018-10-25  1:12             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-24 14:49         ` Duy Nguyen
2018-10-22 19:13     ` Ramsay Jones
2018-10-22 20:06       ` Jeff King
2018-10-23 17:31         ` Ben Peart
2018-10-23 17:35           ` Jeff King
2018-10-22 13:18   ` [PATCH v3 3/3] reset: warn when refresh_index() takes more than 2 seconds Ben Peart
2018-10-23  0:23     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-23 17:12       ` Ben Peart
2018-10-23 19:04 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] speed up git reset Ben Peart
2018-10-23 19:04   ` [PATCH v4 1/3] reset: don't compute unstaged changes after reset when --quiet Ben Peart
2018-10-23 19:04   ` [PATCH v4 2/3] reset: add new reset.quiet config setting Ben Peart
2018-10-24  0:39     ` Ramsay Jones
2018-10-25  4:56       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-25  9:26         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-25 13:26           ` Ben Peart
2018-10-25 17:04           ` Ramsay Jones
2018-10-23 19:04   ` [PATCH v4 3/3] reset: warn when refresh_index() takes more than 2 seconds Ben Peart

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