From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-path: Received: from smtp.codeaurora.org ([198.145.29.96]:49602 "EHLO smtp.codeaurora.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755051AbcGEMbr (ORCPT ); Tue, 5 Jul 2016 08:31:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2016 18:01:45 +0530 From: Ashok Raj Nagarajan To: Johannes Berg Cc: Ashok Raj Nagarajan , linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, ath10k@lists.infradead.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] cfg80211: Add support to set tx power for a station associated In-Reply-To: <1467110918.2493.9.camel@sipsolutions.net> References: <1465926256-6463-1-git-send-email-arnagara@qti.qualcomm.com> <1467110918.2493.9.camel@sipsolutions.net> Message-ID: <1cb3e2cc49b433fe5ed834a33adf64b6@codeaurora.org> (sfid-20160705_143150_988458_84A7F884) Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On 2016-06-28 16:18, Johannes Berg wrote: > On Tue, 2016-06-14 at 23:14 +0530, Ashok Raj Nagarajan wrote: >> This patch adds support to set transmit power setting type and >> transmit power level attributes to NL80211_CMD_SET_STATION in order >> to facilitate adjusting the transmit power level of a station >> associated to the AP. > > Why would you ever need to do that manually? Please give more > explanation in the commit message. > > We have minstrel-blues (which never made it into the code, but that's > just because the submitter went away) doing power adjustments, so you > need to explain why this should be necessary. > Hi Johannes, Sure.. First use case will be to help with the problem of legacy client devices that roam across multiple APs. It is a classic enterprise Wi-Fi AP problem, often managed by a "network controller" unit that is connected to all the APs. The problem is how to handle seamless handoff of clients between multiple APs while maximizing the client throughput and minimizing disruption of IP application services like VoIP calls and video streaming. A legacy client will often hold onto an AP association, even down to 1 Mbps as it roams away. Instead, if the AP can recognise that the client RSSI (and therefore throughput) is poor, it can "drop" the Tx power significantly (just to that client) such that it forces the client to look for a better, closer, and therefore higher-throughput association. It would "give it a kick" without blacklisting it. It just needs to hold the power low for the small amount of time it takes to convince it to go away. Other use cases may be - Support a form of QoS per STA since a higher MCS rate might be achievable, and CW delays might be reduced - The optimal power can be negotiated (closed loop) or observed (open loop) for a given STA, reducing needless congestion on the overall channel - Reduce power to a STA that does not support certain radio features (e.g. 11b clients) Thanks, Ashok > johannes From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-path: Received: from smtp.codeaurora.org ([198.145.29.96]) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtps (Exim 4.85_2 #1 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1bKPWI-0003Y8-4z for ath10k@lists.infradead.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2016 12:32:06 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2016 18:01:45 +0530 From: Ashok Raj Nagarajan Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] cfg80211: Add support to set tx power for a station associated In-Reply-To: <1467110918.2493.9.camel@sipsolutions.net> References: <1465926256-6463-1-git-send-email-arnagara@qti.qualcomm.com> <1467110918.2493.9.camel@sipsolutions.net> Message-ID: <1cb3e2cc49b433fe5ed834a33adf64b6@codeaurora.org> List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: "ath10k" Errors-To: ath10k-bounces+kvalo=adurom.com@lists.infradead.org To: Johannes Berg Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, Ashok Raj Nagarajan , ath10k@lists.infradead.org On 2016-06-28 16:18, Johannes Berg wrote: > On Tue, 2016-06-14 at 23:14 +0530, Ashok Raj Nagarajan wrote: >> This patch adds support to set transmit power setting type and >> transmit power level attributes to NL80211_CMD_SET_STATION in order >> to facilitate adjusting the transmit power level of a station >> associated to the AP. > > Why would you ever need to do that manually? Please give more > explanation in the commit message. > > We have minstrel-blues (which never made it into the code, but that's > just because the submitter went away) doing power adjustments, so you > need to explain why this should be necessary. > Hi Johannes, Sure.. First use case will be to help with the problem of legacy client devices that roam across multiple APs. It is a classic enterprise Wi-Fi AP problem, often managed by a "network controller" unit that is connected to all the APs. The problem is how to handle seamless handoff of clients between multiple APs while maximizing the client throughput and minimizing disruption of IP application services like VoIP calls and video streaming. A legacy client will often hold onto an AP association, even down to 1 Mbps as it roams away. Instead, if the AP can recognise that the client RSSI (and therefore throughput) is poor, it can "drop" the Tx power significantly (just to that client) such that it forces the client to look for a better, closer, and therefore higher-throughput association. It would "give it a kick" without blacklisting it. It just needs to hold the power low for the small amount of time it takes to convince it to go away. Other use cases may be - Support a form of QoS per STA since a higher MCS rate might be achievable, and CW delays might be reduced - The optimal power can be negotiated (closed loop) or observed (open loop) for a given STA, reducing needless congestion on the overall channel - Reduce power to a STA that does not support certain radio features (e.g. 11b clients) Thanks, Ashok > johannes _______________________________________________ ath10k mailing list ath10k@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/ath10k