From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S270821AbTGNVhI (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Jul 2003 17:37:08 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S270875AbTGNVeU (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Jul 2003 17:34:20 -0400 Received: from fw-az.mvista.com ([65.200.49.158]:56814 "EHLO zipcode.az.mvista.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S270822AbTGNVdI (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Jul 2003 17:33:08 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:53:21 -0700 From: Deepak Saxena To: Alan Cox Cc: David griego , alan@storlinksemi.com, Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Alan Shih: "TCP IP Offloading Interface" Message-ID: <20030714215321.GA22061@xanadu.az.mvista.com> Reply-To: dsaxena@mvista.com References: <1058214842.606.151.camel@dhcp22.swansea.linux.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1058214842.606.151.camel@dhcp22.swansea.linux.org.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: MontaVista Software, Inc. Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Jul 14 2003, at 21:34, Alan Cox was caught saying: > > You don't have to. You can go build and test and maintain a set of TOE patches. > Nobody is stopping you. Lots of Linux code exists because someone decided that > the official story was wrong and proved it so. Alan, I agree with your basic sentiment, but the issue here is that supporting TOE requires changes that are very intimate to the kernel. This is not like developing I2O which is an edge driver layer, but a core portion of the kernel. Some support from the community is going to be needed. Currently, any time someone mentions the idea of discussing a TOE interface, it's shot down as being evil and bad. /me thinks that the HW vendors that really want TOE support need to fund some Linux networking folks to go look at the problem in detail. ~Deepak -- Deepak Saxena MontaVista Software - Powering the Embedded Revolution - www.mvista.com