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From: Svein Ove Aas <svein.ove@aas.no>
To: "Jörn Engel" <joern@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de>,
	"Richard Stallman" <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Bitkeeper
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:00:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200307190000.41301.svein.ove@aas.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030718210601.GA29771@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de>

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fredag 18. juli 2003, 23:06, skrev Jörn Engel:
> On Fri, 18 July 2003 15:51:36 -0400, Richard Stallman wrote:
> > I think it would be appropriate at this point to write a free client
> > that talks with Bitkeeper, and for Linux developers to start switching
> > to that from Bitkeeper.  At that point, McVoy will face a hard choice:
> > if he carries out these threats, he risks alienating the community
> > that he hopes will market Bitkeeper for him.
>
> I've told other people before and I'll tell you again:
> Please, pretty please, leave linux-kernel for discussions about the
> linux kernel and leave the bitkeeper flames for those that enjoy
> electronic pyrotechnic.
>
> Apart from that: Larry is right.  Noone cared about crappy ol' cvs
> until bk came alone and showed what everyone already knew.  If you
> didn't have to improve cvs back then, it is still as good as it was,
> so thy improve it now?  Pure jealousy?

No, I think we'd improve CVS because bk came along and showed us what we 
already knew.

Bitkeeper *is* better, but as long as the ideas those improvements are based 
on don't get patented there is no reason for us not to claim them for 
ourselves.

Summa summarum:
Having a Free CVS is good.
Having a useful BitKeeper is sometimes better.
Having a Free CVS with all the features of BK would be best.


- - Svein Ove Aas
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  reply	other threads:[~2003-07-18 21:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-18 19:51 Bitkeeper Richard Stallman
2003-07-18 20:06 ` Bitkeeper Rik van Riel
2003-07-18 20:22   ` Bitkeeper nick
2003-07-18 20:40     ` Bitkeeper Shawn
2003-07-18 21:28     ` Bitkeeper Alan Cox
2003-07-19 23:45       ` Bitkeeper Pavel Machek
2003-07-20  0:23         ` Bitkeeper Jeff Garzik
2003-07-18 20:32   ` Bitkeeper Shawn
2003-07-18 20:44     ` Bitkeeper Rik van Riel
2003-07-19 18:42     ` Bitkeeper Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-19 18:49       ` Bitkeeper Larry McVoy
2003-07-19 18:57         ` Bitkeeper Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-19 19:05           ` Bitkeeper Larry McVoy
2003-07-19 20:02             ` Bitkeeper Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-18 20:09 ` Bitkeeper Trever L. Adams
2003-07-18 20:44   ` Bitkeeper Shawn
2003-07-18 21:03   ` Bitkeeper Larry McVoy
2003-07-18 21:58     ` Bitkeeper Trever L. Adams
2003-07-18 22:17   ` Bitkeeper Mike Fedyk
2003-07-18 22:39     ` Bitkeeper Alan Cox
2003-07-19  8:20       ` Bitkeeper Eric W. Biederman
2003-07-19 15:34         ` Bitkeeper Mark Mielke
2003-07-18 22:29   ` Bitkeeper Scott Robert Ladd
2003-07-18 20:30 ` Bitkeeper Michael Buesch
2003-07-18 20:36   ` Bitkeeper Shawn
2003-07-18 20:44 ` Bitkeeper Larry McVoy
2003-07-18 21:03   ` Bitkeeper Shawn
2003-07-18 21:08   ` Bitkeeper David Schwartz
2003-07-18 21:28     ` Bitkeeper Shawn
2003-07-18 21:23   ` Bitkeeper Alan Cox
2003-07-18 21:50     ` Bitkeeper David Lang
2003-07-18 21:54     ` Bitkeeper Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-07-18 22:16       ` Bitkeeper Alan Cox
2003-07-18 22:01     ` Bitkeeper Trever L. Adams
2003-07-18 22:27     ` Bitkeeper Larry McVoy
2003-07-19  9:45       ` Bitkeeper Marcus Metzler
2003-07-19 20:42       ` Bitkeeper Adrian Bunk
2003-07-19 21:57         ` Bitkeeper Larry McVoy
2003-07-19 22:28           ` Bitkeeper Adrian Bunk
2003-07-19 22:39             ` Bitkeeper Larry McVoy
2003-07-19 23:45               ` Bitkeeper Adrian Bunk
2003-07-20  0:02                 ` Bitkeeper Larry McVoy
2003-07-20  0:10                   ` Bitkeeper Tupshin Harper
2003-07-20  0:26                     ` Bitkeeper Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-07-20  1:11                       ` Bitkeeper Jeff Garzik
2003-07-20  0:23                   ` Bitkeeper Jeff Garzik
2003-07-20  0:28                   ` Bitkeeper jiho
2003-07-20  0:30                   ` Bitkeeper Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-07-20  0:50                     ` Bitkeeper Larry McVoy
2003-07-20  0:22                 ` Bitkeeper Jeff Garzik
     [not found]               ` <3F19DA04.80809@c-zone.net>
     [not found]                 ` <20030719235526.GA31428@work.bitmover.com>
2003-07-20  0:21                   ` Bitkeeper jiho
2003-07-19 23:57       ` Bitkeeper Pavel Machek
2003-07-18 21:06 ` Bitkeeper Jörn Engel
2003-07-18 22:00   ` Svein Ove Aas [this message]
2003-07-18 22:25     ` BK is not heaven, sure [Was: Re: Bitkeeper] J.A. Magallon
2003-07-18 23:50 ` Bitkeeper James Simmons
2003-07-19  1:05   ` offtopic crap (was Re: Bitkeeper) David S. Miller
2003-07-19 15:00     ` Jeff Garzik
2003-07-20  2:50 ` Bitkeeper Zack Brown
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-03-07 16:23 BitKeeper Amit Vijairania
2006-03-07 17:51 ` BitKeeper Yoanis Gil Delgado
2006-03-07 17:08   ` BitKeeper Amit Vijairania
2006-03-07 18:15     ` BitKeeper Yoanis Gil Delgado
2006-03-07 18:33       ` BitKeeper Hans Reiser
2006-03-07 18:31   ` BitKeeper Hans Reiser
2006-03-07 22:27     ` BitKeeper Peter van Hardenberg
2005-04-07 22:03 Bitkeeper Paul Dorman
2005-04-07 22:18 ` Bitkeeper Jacob Gorm Hansen
2005-04-07 23:26   ` Bitkeeper Tupshin Harper
2005-04-07 23:53     ` Bitkeeper Jacob Gorm Hansen
2005-04-07 23:55     ` Bitkeeper Scott Parish
2005-04-08  0:21       ` Bitkeeper Jacob Gorm Hansen
2005-04-08  0:21         ` Bitkeeper Scott Parish
2005-04-08  6:55         ` Bitkeeper Chris Wright
2005-04-10 15:34         ` Bitkeeper Sean Perry
2005-04-11  6:54           ` Bitkeeper Jacob Gorm Hansen
2005-04-12  0:21             ` Bitkeeper David Hopwood
2004-08-16 22:21 Bitkeeper Brown, Len
2004-08-16 21:43 Bitkeeper Nathan Bryant
2003-07-19 16:00 Bitkeeper John Bradford
2003-07-19 16:17 ` Bitkeeper Mark Mielke
2003-07-19 10:33 Bitkeeper John Bradford
2003-02-15  8:21 BitKeeper John Bradford
2003-02-15 22:26 ` BitKeeper Pavel Machek
2003-02-16 11:40   ` BitKeeper John Bradford
2002-10-14 15:11 bitkeeper Cameron, Steve
2002-10-14 15:14 ` bitkeeper Cort Dougan
2002-10-14 15:25 ` bitkeeper Hollis Blanchard
2002-10-15  8:45   ` bitkeeper fred
2002-10-15  9:47     ` bitkeeper Kenneth Johansson

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