From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S271043AbTGVXTf (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:19:35 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S271044AbTGVXTf (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:19:35 -0400 Received: from 205-158-62-67.outblaze.com ([205.158.62.67]:62408 "EHLO spf13.us4.outblaze.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S271043AbTGVXTe (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:19:34 -0400 Message-ID: <20030722233435.25143.qmail@email.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) From: "Clayton Weaver" To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 18:34:34 -0500 Subject: re: SCO offers UnixWare licenses for Linux X-Originating-Ip: 172.154.99.164 X-Originating-Server: ws3-4.us4.outblaze.com Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org (Pardon me if this reiterates information already posted in this thread. From the few messages I browsed, it seems like people do not generally know this.) SCO only owns the Unixware source code. They do not own any earlier copyrights on SVR4 unix (on which SCO's claims of infringement of intellectual property rights are based) that were purchased by Novell from AT&T, because Novell did not include those copyrights in the terms of their sale of Unixware to SCO. Novell's statement of position on the case: [Note: my previous claim in private to a couple of posters that the property rights in question were made public domain by AT&T as part of an earlier antitrust settlement were not accurate. When Unix was invented, AT&T was forbidden by a US antitrust settlement in the 1950s from vending anything other than telco services. So they gave the unix source of the day away for no more than the cost of copying it and sending it to someone that wanted it. This restriction on what markets AT&T could market to was eased by a revision of the antitrust settlement in the early 1980s, which removed several regional telephone companies from AT&T ownership and gave AT&T the right to sell ancillary products like software. AT&T always held the copyrights on System V unix, because their employees wrote it, but up until about 20 years ago they couldn't sell them or charge for licensing.] Still, there is the question of whether any such claims of intellectual property rights on the design (rather than a specific implementation) of unix are valid. How much did the unix api borrow from earlier user interfaces designed under the auspices of a variety of different computer software companies (and perhaps even under US government contract, which would probably make the copyrights prior art owned by the American public, given the terms of US government software development contracts in the '60s and '70s)? This question about the origins of the unix api has never been examined in court. ["Look and feel" copying is ambiguous in US legal precedent. The Lotus 1-2-3 case was decided in favor of the original designers, while the Apple-Microsoft case was decided in favor of the reimplementer-using-different-source-code.] Anyway, the upshot is that Novell could possibly make the case that SCO is trying to make if they were sufficiently motivated, believed that AT&T had copied nothing in the unix API from earlier prior art not owned by AT&T, and believed that a court would decide that other unix-like operating systems infringe their copyrights. But SCO themselves never bought the property rights from Novell that they claim as the basis for the current campaign of fud. (Looks to me like nothing more than some lawyers bilking the SCO and IBM stockholders and anyone else that they can suck into the litigation on a case with no valid basid in any property owned by SCO.) Regards, Clayton Weaver -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup CareerBuilder.com has over 400,000 jobs. Be smarter about your job search http://corp.mail.com/careers