From: Ian Hastie <ianh@iahastie.clara.net>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: SCO offers UnixWare licenses for Linux
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 17:52:44 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200307241752.46140.ianh@iahastie.local.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030724160146.GF12647@work.bitmover.com>
On Thursday 24 Jul 2003 17:01, Larry McVoy wrote:
> > At least in the United States, you are not going to get away with
> > claiming there is some stolen code that caused damages.
>
> ...
>
> > Instead, to prevent this kind of "legal theft", the only thing a person
> > found in possession of "stolen" property needs to do is to return it,
> > unless there is evidence that the possessor actually stole the property
> > in question.
>
> Yeah, right.
>
> ``I "found" these 3GB of mp3's of music and I had no idea that
> they were stolen but now that you mention it, here they are back.
> Finders keepers, right?''
Hardly comparable. There is a difference between getting something knowing it
to be improperly obtained and believing it to be the property of the
supplier. Just to follow your example, you buy a second hand disc or
computer. When you hook it up you find a load of illegal MP3s. If what you
say is correct you'd be guilty of theft, or at the very least copyright
infringement.
Or another example with the second hand computer. You discover that some of
it's software isn't properly licensed, even though you believed that license
to have been legally transferred to you when you bought it. Does that
misjudgement make you guilty?
> What were you thinking? That's obviously incorrect, I know that it is
> incorrect from both observation of recent court cases as well as direct
> personal experience.
OK, if IBM illegally included SCO IP into Linux then they might have done it
knowingly. If Linux Torvalds accepted that code believing it to be legally
supplied then how can he, or any other unwitting Linux user, be guilty? It
seems to me that SCO is more interested in making a quick profit than in
preventing infringement of any rights they may have.
Of course I personally do not believe there is any real basis for SCO's
claims. Then again we are talking about a court case where the "truth" will
be "decided". Any similarity with similarity with reality will be purely
accidental, if the lawyers have their way.
--
Ian.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-07-24 16:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-07-21 17:10 SCO offers UnixWare licenses for Linux Gabor MICSKO
2003-07-21 17:52 ` Michael Bernstein
2003-07-21 18:59 ` Diego Calleja García
2003-07-21 20:09 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-07-21 20:36 ` Shawn
2003-07-24 14:52 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-07-24 15:08 ` Larry McVoy
2003-07-24 15:49 ` Sancar Saran
2003-07-24 19:32 ` Alan Cox
2003-07-25 11:44 ` Sancar Saran
2003-07-24 15:54 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-07-24 16:01 ` Larry McVoy
2003-07-24 16:17 ` Tomas Szepe
2003-07-24 16:39 ` Yuliy Pisetsky
2003-07-24 16:55 ` Larry McVoy
2003-07-24 18:48 ` nick
2003-07-24 16:52 ` Ian Hastie [this message]
2003-07-24 17:22 ` Larry McVoy
2003-07-24 22:52 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-07-24 17:00 ` David Benfell
2003-07-24 17:34 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-07-24 17:46 ` Shawn
2003-07-24 22:55 ` Jan Harkes
2003-07-24 23:27 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-07-25 19:29 ` Timothy Miller
2003-07-24 21:03 ` Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
2003-07-21 17:53 ` Jeff Sipek
2003-07-21 22:35 ` Brian McGroarty
2003-07-22 19:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-22 3:41 ` Kurt Wall
2003-07-21 17:24 Mudama, Eric
2003-07-22 23:34 Clayton Weaver
[not found] <20030724234213.GA20064@work.bitmover.com>
2003-07-25 0:11 ` Michael Bernstein
2003-07-25 0:21 ` Larry McVoy
2003-07-25 12:43 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-25 13:37 ` David S. Miller
2003-07-25 15:09 ` Yaroslav Rastrigin
2003-07-25 15:10 ` David S. Miller
2003-07-25 15:17 ` Larry McVoy
2003-07-25 13:37 Downing, Thomas
2003-07-26 8:21 Anuradha Ratnaweera
2003-07-26 14:49 ` Henrik Persson
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