From: viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk
To: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: statfs() / statvfs() syscall ballsup...
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 01:22:48 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031010002248.GE7665@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3F85ED01.8020207@redhat.com>
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 04:19:29PM -0700, Ulrich Drepper wrote:
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> Linus Torvalds wrote:
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> > User space shouldn't know or care about frsize, and it doesn't even
> > necessarily make any sense on a lot of filesystems, so make it easy for
> > the user. It's not as if the rounding errors really matter.
>
> There have been numerous requests to add a statvfs syscall, at least
> made to me. The problem is that the emulation through statfs cannot be
> optimal. The emulation has to get all kinds of additional information
> (like mount flags) which in some cases lead to hangs or delays.
Umm... I don't see anything equivalent to statfs(2) ->f_type in statvfs(2).
->f_frsize makes no sense for practically all filesystems we support.
->f_namemax is not well-defined ("maximum filename length" as in "you won't
see filenames longer than..." or "attempt to create a file with name longer
than... will fail" or "longer than that and I'm truncating"; and that is
aside of lovely questions about the meaning of "length" - strlen()? number
of multibyte characters accepted by that fs? something else?)
->f_fsid is also practically undefined (and left 0 by practically every fs,
so no userland code can do anything useful with it).
->f_flag might be useful, all right. However, I'd like to see real-world
examples of code (Solaris, whatever) that would use it in any meaningful
way...
Conclusion: if we care about something like statvfs(), it should *not* have
the statvfs() interface.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-10-10 0:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-10-09 22:16 Trond Myklebust
2003-10-09 22:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-09 23:19 ` Ulrich Drepper
2003-10-10 0:22 ` viro [this message]
2003-10-10 4:49 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-10 5:26 ` Trond Myklebust
2003-10-10 12:37 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-10 13:46 ` Trond Myklebust
2003-10-10 14:35 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-10 15:32 ` Misc NFSv4 (was Re: statfs() / statvfs() syscall ballsup...) Trond Myklebust
2003-10-10 15:53 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-10 16:07 ` Trond Myklebust
2003-10-10 15:55 ` Michael Shuey
2003-10-10 16:20 ` Trond Myklebust
2003-10-10 16:45 ` J. Bruce Fields
2003-10-10 14:39 ` statfs() / statvfs() syscall ballsup Jamie Lokier
2003-10-09 23:31 ` Trond Myklebust
2003-10-10 12:27 ` Joel Becker
2003-10-10 14:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-10 15:27 ` Joel Becker
2003-10-10 16:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-10 16:26 ` Joel Becker
2003-10-10 16:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-10 17:33 ` Joel Becker
2003-10-10 17:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-10 18:13 ` Joel Becker
2003-10-10 16:27 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-10-10 16:33 ` Chris Friesen
2003-10-10 17:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-10 17:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-10 17:21 ` Joel Becker
2003-10-10 16:01 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-10 16:33 ` Joel Becker
2003-10-10 16:58 ` Chris Friesen
2003-10-10 17:05 ` Trond Myklebust
2003-10-10 17:20 ` Joel Becker
2003-10-10 17:33 ` Chris Friesen
2003-10-10 17:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-10 17:54 ` Trond Myklebust
2003-10-10 18:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-10 20:40 ` Trond Myklebust
2003-10-10 21:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-10 22:17 ` Trond Myklebust
2003-10-11 2:53 ` Andrew Morton
2003-10-11 3:47 ` Trond Myklebust
2003-10-10 18:05 ` Joel Becker
2003-10-10 18:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-10-10 20:33 ` Helge Hafting
2003-10-10 20:07 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-12 15:31 ` Greg Stark
2003-10-12 16:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-12 22:09 ` Greg Stark
2003-10-13 8:45 ` Helge Hafting
2003-10-15 13:25 ` Ingo Oeser
2003-10-15 15:03 ` Greg Stark
2003-10-15 18:37 ` Helge Hafting
2003-10-16 10:29 ` Ingo Oeser
2003-10-16 14:02 ` Greg Stark
2003-10-21 11:47 ` Ingo Oeser
2003-10-10 18:20 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-10-10 18:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-10 19:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-10-09 23:16 ` Andreas Dilger
2003-10-09 23:24 ` Linus Torvalds
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