From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263190AbTJ0OBq (ORCPT ); Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:01:46 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263203AbTJ0OBq (ORCPT ); Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:01:46 -0500 Received: from uni03du.unity.ncsu.edu ([152.1.13.103]:52096 "EHLO uni03du.unity.ncsu.edu") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S263190AbTJ0OBp (ORCPT ); Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:01:45 -0500 From: jlnance@unity.ncsu.edu Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:01:42 -0500 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] DRM and pci_driver conversion Message-ID: <20031027140142.GA2832@ncsu.edu> References: <16282.45806.428547.279213@zeus.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 11:37:05AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > Face it, a good graphics driver needs more than just "set up the ROM". It > needs DMA access, and the ability to use interrupts. It needs a real > driver. > > It basically needs something like what the DRI modules tend to do. On Tue, 16 Jan 1996, Linus Torvalds wrote: > X goes to hardware directly, but that's just because it should do it. > And exactly _because_ it's an application, it can be just about as > complex as it wants (and needs) to be. So you have a user-level device > driver: is that not a good idea? The microkernel people are jumping up > and down and wetting themselves in excitement over things like that. Its not that I dont think you are entitled to change your mind. Its just that the second version is so quotable that it has stuck in my mind oh these many years. Jim