From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S265975AbUAEWXH (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Jan 2004 17:23:07 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S265976AbUAEWVv (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Jan 2004 17:21:51 -0500 Received: from findaloan.ca ([66.11.177.6]:41166 "EHLO mark.mielke.cc") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S265975AbUAEWUa (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Jan 2004 17:20:30 -0500 Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 17:18:40 -0500 From: Mark Mielke To: Andreas Schwab Cc: Rob Landley , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: udev and devfs - The final word Message-ID: <20040105221840.GA3222@mark.mielke.cc> Mail-Followup-To: Andreas Schwab , Rob Landley , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20040103040013.A3100@pclin040.win.tue.nl> <200401042148.24742.rob@landley.net> <20040105151303.GA30849@mark.mielke.cc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Jan 05, 2004 at 05:36:09PM +0100, Andreas Schwab wrote: > Mark Mielke writes: > > There are a few cases that we might be forced to maintain regular > > numbers: mkfifo() creates a named pipe, and bind() creates a named > > socket. > Neither fifos nor sockets are devices. Well, then, as long as things like this don't break... :-) Other than backing up /dev, does anybody have *real* cases where a program assumes major:minor is consistent across reboots? We should start notifying the authors now... NFS seems to be one, given the explanation offered for how fsid's are derived... mark -- mark@mielke.cc/markm@ncf.ca/markm@nortelnetworks.com __________________________ . . _ ._ . . .__ . . ._. .__ . . . .__ | Neighbourhood Coder |\/| |_| |_| |/ |_ |\/| | |_ | |/ |_ | | | | | | \ | \ |__ . | | .|. |__ |__ | \ |__ | Ottawa, Ontario, Canada One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them, one ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them... http://mark.mielke.cc/