From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list linux-mips); Thu, 15 Jan 2004 01:04:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gateway-1237.mvista.com ([IPv6:::ffff:12.44.186.158]:8695 "EHLO orion.mvista.com") by linux-mips.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 01:04:01 +0000 Received: (from jsun@localhost) by orion.mvista.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id i0F13tn16299; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 17:03:55 -0800 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 17:03:55 -0800 From: Jun Sun To: Jim Thompson Cc: Alan Cox , linux-mips@linux-mips.org, Charlie Brady , jsun@mvista.com Subject: Re: Broadcom 4702? Message-ID: <20040114170355.G13471@mvista.com> References: <61324177-46D5-11D8-9715-000393C30E1E@vivato.net> <1074114950.403.8.camel@dhcp23.swansea.linux.org.uk> <7CB2EF32-46DA-11D8-9715-000393C30E1E@vivato.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <7CB2EF32-46DA-11D8-9715-000393C30E1E@vivato.net>; from jimt@vivato.net on Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 01:42:01PM -0800 Return-Path: X-Envelope-To: <"|/home/ecartis/ecartis -s linux-mips"> (uid 0) X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-mips@linux-mips.org Original-Recipient: rfc822;linux-mips@linux-mips.org X-archive-position: 3962 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: linux-mips-bounce@linux-mips.org Errors-to: linux-mips-bounce@linux-mips.org X-original-sender: jsun@mvista.com Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-mips On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 01:42:01PM -0800, Jim Thompson wrote: > > I have binaries. I asked. I was told "no". > > On Jan 14, 2004, at 1:15 PM, Alan Cox wrote: > > > On Mer, 2004-01-14 at 21:05, Jim Thompson wrote: > >> My question is why these patches, which are subject to GPL (it is > >> binutils and gcc, after all), haven't been released. > > > > There is no obligation for anyone to provide the source except to those > > they provide the binaries. They just can't stop those people then > > redistributing it. > > Since we are on this subject, I am curious if I buy a Cisco's router whether it is considered that Cisco distributs the binaries to me and whether I can demand for the source code if they are GPL'ed software. I can see arguments go either way. Do open source community and industry have some concensus on this issue? Jun