From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264857AbUF1HXY (ORCPT ); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 03:23:24 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264858AbUF1HXY (ORCPT ); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 03:23:24 -0400 Received: from disk.smurf.noris.de ([192.109.102.53]:5827 "EHLO server.smurf.noris.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264857AbUF1HXO (ORCPT ); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 03:23:14 -0400 From: "Matthias Urlichs" Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:19:32 +0200 To: Chris Wedgwood Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [parisc-linux] Re: [PATCH] Fix the cpumask rewrite Message-ID: <20040628071932.GB5557@kiste> References: <20040626221802.GA12296@taniwha.stupidest.org> <1088290477.3790.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040627000541.GA13325@taniwha.stupidest.org> <20040627224115.GA22532@taniwha.stupidest.org> <20040628012407.GC4648@kiste> <20040628054227.GB4025@taniwha.stupidest.org> <20040628065506.GA5557@kiste> <20040628070205.GA4743@taniwha.stupidest.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040628070205.GA4743@taniwha.stupidest.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040523i X-Smurf-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) X-Smurf-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "server.smurf.noris.de", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi, Chris Wedgwood: > On Mon, Jun 28, 2004 at 08:55:08AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > > However, going over 5000 jiffies usages and re-doing all of them > > doesn't happen overnight, and I do suspect that some people want > > their embedded clockless systems to run Linux 2.4 or 2.6, rather > > than 2.8... > > Such (embedded) hardware uses a very small percentage of the drivers > we have in the tree, changing them as required seems quite sane and > manageable in 2.7.x time-frame. > ... especially since the 2.7 time-frame hasn't even started yet. [...] Content analysis details: (-3.8 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -4.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 1.1 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi, Chris Wedgwood: > On Mon, Jun 28, 2004 at 08:55:08AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > > However, going over 5000 jiffies usages and re-doing all of them > > doesn't happen overnight, and I do suspect that some people want > > their embedded clockless systems to run Linux 2.4 or 2.6, rather > > than 2.8... > > Such (embedded) hardware uses a very small percentage of the drivers > we have in the tree, changing them as required seems quite sane and > manageable in 2.7.x time-frame. > ... especially since the 2.7 time-frame hasn't even started yet. > I also do see why clock-less has to be embedded only, I suspect maybe > the s390 could make use of this too? (Think of lots of mostly-idle > Linux instances under VM). > True. The same argument holds for "real" Linux systems, which could easily sit in HLT for hours instead of twiddling their thumbs $KERNEL_HZ times per second. > And, it's a 'new feature' so if people need to upgrade, then Life is > tough. How sad. I'm not contradicting you here. In fact, I seem to have taken the somewhat further than originally intended. :-/ -- Matthias Urlichs | {M:U} IT Design @ m-u-it.de | smurf@smurf.noris.de