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From: Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@verizon.net>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Denis Vlasenko <vda@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua>
Subject: Re: Possible dcache BUG
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 21:40:48 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200408202140.49125.gene.heskett@verizon.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200408210118.02011.vda@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua>

On Friday 20 August 2004 18:18, Denis Vlasenko wrote:
>> mmm, I wonder who the zombie is.  Ahh, it's ~/bin/its-daylight.
>> It's a script that cron triggered, and which changes the mode of
>> the heyu/xtend stuff for daytime operations.  Its (a bash script)
>> apparently hung looking for a response it didn't get.  I have 3
>> of those at various times of the day and I've never gotten email
>> from that one.  The mode change does occur though...  FWIW heyu
>> has been fixed, the distro version has a severe scope problem
>> from a missing '}' which was not caught by the compiler, but by
>> a tool I wrote years ago for os9 that I've ported to linux!   The
>> heyu author ): didn't seem to be interested in fixing it either.
>>
>> I'll go take a look at it after I've sent this, but it does bring
>> up a sore point.  linux doesn't get this right, os9 did.  zombies
>> are killable by os9, it simply takes it out of the execution
>> queue, and reclaims all resources used back into the free pool, no
>> questions asked or expected.  We shouldn't have to reboot just to
>> kill a fscking zombie...
>
>zombie is not much more than an exit code to be collected by
>wait() syscall. All other resources are already freed.
>
>Zombies result when parent does not wait() for dead children.
>Trivial example:
>
>#!/bin/sh
>sleep 10 &
>exec env - sleep 100
>
>26752 pts/0    S      0:00           sleep 100
>26753 pts/0    Z      0:00             [sleep <defunct>]
>
>Such zombies got reparented to init *as soon as parent dies itself*.
>Properly functioning init constanly wait()s for any unexpected
> chindren, so it takes care of zombies.
>--
>vda

Oh oh, looks like I need a lesson in bash then.  The whole basic idea 
of what I was doing there was for the parent shell to go away, 
leaving the child process sitting there until its done some 10 
seconds later.  If I didn't do that, then cron seemed to hang on the 
first execution as if was dutifully waiting for bash to exit...

The bash manual I have is both too concise, and too verbose because 
bash is as close to emac's as I can think of when looking for a 
universal executer.

In the crontab its this:
00 05 * * *     /root/bin/its-daylight

Then /root/bin/its-daylight calls 2 other scripts using the "&" 
syntax.

So I guess its time to RTFM on bash again.

Thanks.

Now, to get this back on-thread..

I switched the memory sticks to each others sockets this afternoon.  
And "memburn 512" megabytes, which puts me into the swap about 70 
megs, is still running with no detected errors in 1162 loops.  About 
4:30 elapsed time so far.  I've got all my fingers and toes crossed, 
and everything but tied a knot in it, hoping this may be the end of 
the problem.  If not, then the nightmare continues.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-08-21  1:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 147+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-02 13:14 Possible dcache BUG Brett Charbeneau
2004-08-05  2:16 ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-05  3:46   ` Andrew Morton
2004-08-05  4:31     ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-05  0:44       ` Chris Shoemaker
2004-08-05  8:35         ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-08-05 14:14           ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-05 13:48         ` Gene Heskett
     [not found]           ` <200408210118.02011.vda@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua>
2004-08-21  1:40             ` Gene Heskett [this message]
2004-08-05  8:33       ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-08-05 14:19         ` Gene Heskett
     [not found]           ` <200408070203.35268.vda@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua>
2004-08-07  1:28             ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-05 21:26         ` Chris Shoemaker
2004-08-05  7:25   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-05  7:31     ` Andrew Morton
2004-08-05  8:33     ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-08-05 14:55       ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-05 16:26       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-05 18:06         ` Ingo Molnar
2004-08-05 18:50           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-05 20:29             ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]             ` <20040806073739.GA6617@elte.hu>
     [not found]               ` <20040806004231.143c8bd2.akpm@osdl.org>
2004-08-06  8:27                 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-08-06 11:51                 ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-06 16:58                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-06 17:16                     ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-06 17:26                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-06 23:19                         ` Chris Shoemaker
2004-08-07  4:15                           ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-07  0:05                             ` Chris Shoemaker
2004-08-07  5:50                               ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-06 23:09                     ` Chris Shoemaker
2004-08-07  6:20                       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-07 12:38                         ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-07 13:44                         ` Chris Shoemaker
2004-08-07 18:49                           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-07 19:01                           ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-06 11:31               ` Andi Kleen
2004-08-06 17:16               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-05 21:10         ` Chris Shoemaker
2004-08-06  2:03         ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-06  2:12         ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-06  2:50     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-06  3:18       ` viro
2004-08-06  3:24         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-08  4:42           ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-08 14:30           ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-08 18:39             ` Andrew Morton
2004-08-10  4:12               ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-11  3:42                 ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-11  3:46                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-11  4:18                     ` Udo A. Steinberg
2004-08-11  5:13                       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-11  5:15                         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-11  5:33                           ` Udo A. Steinberg
2004-08-11 14:37                           ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-12  1:26                             ` Nick Piggin
2004-08-12  2:23                               ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-12  2:36                                 ` Nick Piggin
2004-08-13  1:00                           ` Udo A. Steinberg
2004-08-13  1:31                             ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-13  2:03                               ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-13  2:27                               ` Andreas Dilger
2004-08-13  3:33                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-20  7:02                               ` Udo A. Steinberg
2004-08-20  7:11                                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-08-20  7:19                                   ` Udo A. Steinberg
2004-08-20  7:49                                     ` Nick Piggin
2004-08-24  6:08                                       ` Udo A. Steinberg
2004-08-24  7:41                                         ` Nick Piggin
2004-08-24 18:20                                           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-24 20:00                                             ` Andrew Morton
2004-08-24 18:40                                               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-25  0:27                                                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-12  7:03                               ` Udo A. Steinberg
2004-09-12  7:16                                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-12  7:29                                   ` Udo A. Steinberg
2004-09-12  7:48                                     ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]                                       ` <20040912004812.3544c6de.akpm-3NddpPZAyC0@public.gmane.org>
2004-09-13  4:53                                         ` Len Brown
2004-09-13  4:53                                           ` Len Brown
2004-08-11  5:55                         ` David S. Miller
2004-08-11  4:47                     ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-11  4:59                       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-11  8:05                         ` Roger Luethi
2004-08-13  4:27                         ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-13  8:32                           ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-14  2:18                           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-14  5:19                             ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-14  5:50                             ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-14  8:17                             ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-15  4:09                               ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-15  8:48                                 ` viro
2004-08-15  9:42                                   ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-15 17:31                                     ` Andrew Morton
2004-08-15 17:58                                       ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-15  9:50                                   ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-15 10:36                                     ` viro
2004-08-15 10:10                                   ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-15 10:37                                     ` viro
2004-08-15 10:42                                       ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-15 11:00                                         ` viro
     [not found]                                       ` <200408150704.49312.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
2004-08-15 11:26                                         ` viro
2004-08-15 17:47                                           ` Gene Heskett
     [not found]                                             ` <200408152257.04773.vda@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua>
2004-08-15 20:33                                               ` Gene Heskett
     [not found]                                                 ` <200408160803.15206.vda@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua>
2004-08-16  6:32                                                   ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-16 14:13                                                     ` Gene Heskett
     [not found]                                                       ` <200408161749.23663.vda@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua>
2004-08-16 15:25                                                         ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-16 22:52                                   ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-16 23:01                                     ` viro
2004-08-17  4:44                                       ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-17  4:58                                         ` Nick Piggin
2004-08-17  5:26                                           ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-17 11:57                                             ` Nick Piggin
2004-08-19  9:41                                               ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-19 18:36                                                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-20  2:38                                                   ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-20  7:33                                                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-20 15:06                                                       ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-20 15:43                                                         ` V13
2004-08-20 17:29                                                           ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-20 18:13                                                             ` Marc Ballarin
2004-08-20 20:08                                                               ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-21  9:25                                                                 ` Barry K. Nathan
2004-08-21 18:31                                                                   ` V13
2004-08-21 18:55                                                                     ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-22 11:04                                                                       ` Helge Hafting
2004-08-22 11:40                                                                         ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-20 20:11                                                             ` R. J. Wysocki
2004-08-20 20:17                                                               ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-22  5:05                                                                 ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-22 11:42                                                                   ` R. J. Wysocki
2004-08-24  2:34                                                                   ` Tom Vier
2004-08-24  3:08                                                                     ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-25  1:49                                                                       ` Tom Vier
2004-08-25  2:33                                                                         ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-25 14:55                                                                           ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-08-25 17:23                                                                             ` Ryan Cumming
2004-08-25 17:36                                                                               ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-08-27 14:01                                                                           ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-25  6:13                                                                         ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-08-29 13:48                                                                           ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-29 14:34                                                                             ` Possible dcache BUG [u] Martin Schlemmer [c]
2004-08-29 15:21                                                                             ` Possible dcache BUG Rafael J. Wysocki
2004-08-29 17:23                                                                               ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-08-29 22:25                                                                                 ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-05 14:54 Brett Charbeneau
     [not found] <2oKTA-5CQ-65@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <2r0U7-3yx-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <2rwhh-BX-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <2rShM-7QP-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <2rSrs-7Vn-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <2rSUw-8lw-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]           ` <2rTGR-se-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]             ` <2rUjF-Od-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-08-11 12:32               ` Andi Kleen
2004-08-20  8:08 Daniel Blueman

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