From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S268511AbUH3QCN (ORCPT ); Mon, 30 Aug 2004 12:02:13 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S268520AbUH3QCN (ORCPT ); Mon, 30 Aug 2004 12:02:13 -0400 Received: from MAIL.13thfloor.at ([212.16.62.51]:15323 "EHLO mail.13thfloor.at") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S268511AbUH3QCG (ORCPT ); Mon, 30 Aug 2004 12:02:06 -0400 Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 18:02:05 +0200 From: Herbert Poetzl To: Hans Reiser Cc: Linus Torvalds , Christoph Hellwig , flx@msu.ru, Christophe Saout , Andrew Morton , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, flx@namesys.com, reiserfs-list@namesys.com Subject: Re: reiser4 plugins Message-ID: <20040830160205.GA7718@MAIL.13thfloor.at> Mail-Followup-To: Hans Reiser , Linus Torvalds , Christoph Hellwig , flx@msu.ru, Christophe Saout , Andrew Morton , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, flx@namesys.com, reiserfs-list@namesys.com References: <20040826124929.GA542@lst.de> <1093525234.9004.55.camel@leto.cs.pocnet.net> <20040826130718.GB820@lst.de> <1093526273.11694.8.camel@leto.cs.pocnet.net> <20040826132439.GA1188@lst.de> <20040828105929.GB6746@alias> <20040828190350.GA14152@alias> <20040828190901.GA18083@lst.de> <4130FBF8.8070005@namesys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4130FBF8.8070005@namesys.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, Aug 28, 2004 at 02:41:12PM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote: > I think it is reasonable to make the -nopseudos (turns off the metafiles > ) mount option mandatory, until the bugs are resolved. > > Our testing did not find these metafile/VFS bugs because of the reason > for all our bugs, we screwed up. > > There is a distinct difference between some persons and I, which is that > some think all of reiser4 should be excluded until metafiles are > implemented by VFS some long time from now, and I, in that I merely > think buggy optional features should be turned off until they are > fixed. I, being renowned for my paranoia and asininity as I am, think > these persons find it convenient as an excuse to keep us from competing, > and I think that if we were slower there would be less hassle every time > we try to get into the kernel. > > While reiser4 has some significant roughnesses remaining in its > performance, I think the average user would find it performs better than > other filesystems, and is stable enough for, say, a laptop, and I > predict that by the time we have it stable enough for mission critical > servers, all the roughness in various important corner cases will be > gone. > > Persons benchmarking it with tarballs, please be sure to use tarballs > created on reiser4, not ext2 tarballs, readdir order matters a lot for > sorted directory filesystems. hmm, so probably we have to wait until all tar packagers moved to reiser4, so that the available tar files are 'sorted properly' ... best, Herbert > Hans > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html