From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262728AbVFWTaG (ORCPT ); Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:30:06 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262752AbVFWT3p (ORCPT ); Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:29:45 -0400 Received: from inti.inf.utfsm.cl ([200.1.21.155]:13010 "EHLO inti.inf.utfsm.cl") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262992AbVFWTZ6 (ORCPT ); Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:25:58 -0400 Message-Id: <200506231924.j5NJOvLA031008@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> To: David Masover cc: Hans Reiser , Jeff Garzik , Christoph Hellwig , Andrew Morton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ReiserFS List Subject: Re: reiser4 plugins In-Reply-To: Message from David Masover of "Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:11:16 EST." <42BAC304.2060802@slaphack.com> X-Mailer: MH-E 7.4.2; nmh 1.1; XEmacs 21.4 (patch 17) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:24:57 -0400 From: Horst von Brand X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0b5 (inti.inf.utfsm.cl [200.1.21.155]); Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:24:58 -0400 (CLT) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org David Masover wrote: > Hans Reiser wrote: > > Jeff Garzik wrote: [...] > > You missed his point. He is saying ext3 code should migrate towards > > becoming reiser4 plugins, and reiser4 should be merged now so that the > > migration can get started. > Sort of. > > I think ext3 would be nice as a reiser4 plugin. What for? It works just fine as it stands, AFAICS. > Not everyone will want > to reformat at once, but as the reiser4 code matures and proves itself > (even more than it already has), I for one have seen mainly people with wild claims that it will make their machines much faster, and coming back later asking how they can recover their thrashed partitions... > the ext3 people may find themselves > wanting some of the more generic optimizations. They'll filch them in due time, don't worry. > But, I don't think that will realistically happen at all. > > Instead, what will probably happen is that once Reiser4 is in the > mainstream kernel, it will become more popular and noticable. Other > FSes will take note. ext3 people may decide they want > file-as-directory, That idea is even much older than Linux itself, and no other (Unix) filesystem has implemented it. Ever. Wonder why... > and vfat people may decide they want cryptocompress, I'm sure they don't, because it is mostly for Windows and assorted devices (pendrives, digital cameras, ...) compatibility. > and so on. In order to do this, they can work with Namesys to port > whatever feature they need at the time to the standard VFS. I'm sure they are grateful for the offer. > Eventually, with all the features ported, we end up with a situation > where there may be no meaningful difference between a filesystem and a > low-level reiser4 plugin. Could very well take decades, if ever. -- Dr. Horst H. von Brand User #22616 counter.li.org Departamento de Informatica Fono: +56 32 654431 Universidad Tecnica Federico Santa Maria +56 32 654239 Casilla 110-V, Valparaiso, Chile Fax: +56 32 797513