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From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Mike Bell <kernel@mikebell.org>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dtor_core@ameritech.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] ndevfs - a "nano" devfs
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 00:40:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050628074015.GA3577@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050627232559.GA7690@mikebell.org>

On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 04:26:00PM -0700, Mike Bell wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 05:35:50PM -0500, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> > AFAIK there is no requirement in input subsystem that devices should be
> > created under /dev/input. When devfs is activated they are created there
> > by default, but that's it.
> 
> Things which accept a path to an event file as an argument will work
> just fine. But anything which tries autodiscovery HAS to be able to find
> the device nodes. Think directfb, most (but not all) of the X patches,
> any user-space driver that wants to find the hardware it owns, etc.
> 
> This illustrates nicely my reasons for preferring devfs.
> 
> 1) Predictable, canonical device names are a Good Thing.

And impossible for the kernel to generate given hotpluggable devices.

> 2) If you accept that, exporting the device names from the kernel is the
> most sensible way to do it.

I don't accept it, and neither does anyone else.  See my previous posts
about devfs and udev for more details, I'm not going to go into this
again...

Good luck,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2005-06-28  8:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-24  8:18 [ANNOUNCE] ndevfs - a "nano" devfs Greg KH
2005-06-24 12:23 ` Michael Tokarev
2005-06-24 15:16   ` Greg KH
2005-06-24 15:40     ` Michael Tokarev
2005-06-24 16:26       ` Greg KH
2005-06-24 14:32 ` Bill Gatliff
2005-06-24 15:17 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-06-24 15:20   ` Greg KH
2005-06-24 17:10 ` Michael Tokarev
2005-06-24 17:10 ` Bill Gatliff
2005-06-28  7:40   ` Greg KH
2005-06-24 19:05 ` Mike Bell
2005-06-24 21:55   ` J.A. Magallon
2005-06-24 19:22 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2005-06-25  0:57 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-06-25  7:37   ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-28  7:41   ` Greg KH
2005-06-28 19:56     ` Tom Rini
2005-06-28 21:08       ` Olaf Hering
2005-06-28 21:25         ` Tom Rini
2005-06-28 22:08           ` Michael Tokarev
2005-06-28 22:23             ` Tom Rini
2005-06-25 22:15 ` Matt Mackall
2005-06-25 23:43   ` Greg KH
2005-06-26  8:23     ` Russell King
2005-06-28  3:36       ` Greg KH
2005-06-27  7:19     ` Mike Bell
2005-06-27 22:35       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-06-27 23:26         ` Mike Bell
2005-06-28  7:40           ` Greg KH [this message]
2005-06-28  9:08             ` Mike Bell
2005-06-28  9:21               ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-06-28  9:40                 ` Mike Bell
2005-06-28 21:49                 ` Jim Crilly
2005-06-28 22:23                   ` Mike Bell
2005-06-28 23:43                     ` Jim Crilly
2005-06-29  0:12                       ` Mike Bell
2005-06-29  0:39                         ` David Lang
2005-06-29  0:53                           ` Mike Bell
2005-06-28 12:00             ` Oliver Neukum
2005-06-28 20:08               ` Greg KH
2005-06-29  6:41                 ` Oliver Neukum
2005-06-29 16:06                   ` Greg KH
2005-06-29 16:22                     ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found] ` <200506270819.20108.arnd@arndb.de>
2005-06-28  3:46   ` Greg KH
     [not found] <OF831AC472.851744FE-ON8025702A.004A57EC-8025702A.004B5AE9@sophos.com>
2005-06-24 15:23 ` Greg KH
2005-06-24 15:32 tvrtko.ursulin
2005-06-24 16:27 ` Greg KH
2005-06-27 15:17 Adam J. Richter
2005-06-27 15:21 Adam J. Richter
2005-06-27 23:27 ` J.A. Magallon

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