From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1750831AbWGWLsb (ORCPT ); Sun, 23 Jul 2006 07:48:31 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751013AbWGWLsa (ORCPT ); Sun, 23 Jul 2006 07:48:30 -0400 Received: from lug-owl.de ([195.71.106.12]:61365 "EHLO lug-owl.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750831AbWGWLsa (ORCPT ); Sun, 23 Jul 2006 07:48:30 -0400 Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 13:48:28 +0200 From: Jan-Benedict Glaw To: Hans Reiser Cc: Jeff Garzik , Theodore Tso , LKML , ReiserFS List Subject: Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion Message-ID: <20060723114828.GC27825@lug-owl.de> Mail-Followup-To: Hans Reiser , Jeff Garzik , Theodore Tso , LKML , ReiserFS List References: <44C12F0A.1010008@namesys.com> <20060722130219.GB7321@thunk.org> <44C26F65.4000103@namesys.com> <44C28A8F.1050408@garzik.org> <44C32348.8020704@namesys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="S1BNGpv0yoYahz37" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44C32348.8020704@namesys.com> X-Operating-System: Linux mail 2.6.12.3lug-owl X-gpg-fingerprint: 250D 3BCF 7127 0D8C A444 A961 1DBD 5E75 8399 E1BB X-gpg-key: wwwkeys.de.pgp.net X-Echelon-Enable: howto poison arsenous mail psychological biological nuclear warfare test the bombastical terror of flooding the spy listeners explosion sex drugs and rock'n'roll X-TKUeV: howto poison arsenous mail psychological biological nuclear warfare test the bombastical terror of flooding the spy listeners explosion sex drugs and rock'n'roll User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --S1BNGpv0yoYahz37 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2006-07-23 01:20:40 -0600, Hans Reiser wrote: > There is nothing about small patches that makes them better code. There Erm, a small patch is something which should _obviously_ fix one issue. A small patch, containing at max some 100 lines, can easily be read and understood. A complete filesystem (I'm co-maintaining one for an ancient on-disk format, too) isn't really easy to understand or to verify from looking at it for 5min. > is no reason we should favor them, if the developers are willing to work > on something for 5 years to escape a local optimum, that is often the > RIGHT thing to do. I give a shit of nothing to some 5 year work if I cannot verify that it won't hurt me at some point. > It is importand that we embrace our diversity, and be happy for the > strength it gives us. Some of us are good at small patches that evolve, > and some are good at escaping local optimums. We all have value, both > trees and grass have their place in the world. Just put reiser4 in some GIT tree and publish it. Maybe you can place it on git.kernel.org . MfG, JBG --=20 Jan-Benedict Glaw jbglaw@lug-owl.de +49-172-760= 8481 Signature of: ...und wenn Du denkst, es geht nicht meh= r, the second : kommt irgendwo ein Lichtlein her. --S1BNGpv0yoYahz37 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEw2IMHb1edYOZ4bsRAtBDAJ0Qym+4r9bF+dHPNoYYiOAmfVEkZgCfXkWF 3zck3qVosxcJYtP3AZyCC4U= =AqyK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --S1BNGpv0yoYahz37--