From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932132AbWG0MVh (ORCPT ); Thu, 27 Jul 2006 08:21:37 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932230AbWG0MVh (ORCPT ); Thu, 27 Jul 2006 08:21:37 -0400 Received: from nessie.weebeastie.net ([220.233.7.36]:11278 "EHLO bunyip.lochness.weebeastie.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932132AbWG0MVh (ORCPT ); Thu, 27 Jul 2006 08:21:37 -0400 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:21:51 +1000 From: CaT To: Adrian Bunk Cc: Luigi Genoni , andrea@cpushare.com, "J. Bruce Fields" , Hans Reiser , Nikita Danilov , Rene Rebe , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: the ' 'official' point of view' expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion Message-ID: <20060727122151.GH2066@zip.com.au> References: <20060726142854.GM32243@opteron.random> <20060726145019.GF23701@stusta.de> <20060726160604.GO32243@opteron.random> <20060726170236.GD31172@fieldses.org> <20060726172029.GS32243@opteron.random> <20060726205022.GI23701@stusta.de> <20060726211741.GU32243@opteron.random> <20060727065603.GJ23701@stusta.de> <4284.192.167.206.189.1153989192.squirrel@darkstar.linuxpratico.net> <20060727100446.GK23701@stusta.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060727100446.GK23701@stusta.de> Organisation: Furball Inc. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 12:04:46PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > I can't prove that the 1:5 ratio is wrong, but the point is that > claiming a 1:5 ratio was true based on the klive data is not better than > claiming it based on no data. But claiming it based on the klive data is > worse since people like you are getting the wrong impression it was > based on data that would have the quality for supporting such a > statement. > > The data simply has not the quality for such a statement. > Please read my two examples in [1] if you want to get an impression why > such problems can occur. > > [1] http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/7/26/203 Also, one may wish to invest in the purchase of 'How to Lie with Statistics'[1] by Darrel Huff (ISBN 0-393-31072-8). An easy yet powerful little read. [1] this is not meant to imply that anyone here is lieing, attempting to lie, thinking of lieing, wishing they were lieing or having anything to do with lieing, purposeful or otherwise. -- "To the extent that we overreact, we proffer the terrorists the greatest tribute." - High Court Judge Michael Kirby