From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1161068AbXAaWNN (ORCPT ); Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:13:13 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1161070AbXAaWNN (ORCPT ); Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:13:13 -0500 Received: from agminet01.oracle.com ([141.146.126.228]:22793 "EHLO agminet01.oracle.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1161068AbXAaWNM (ORCPT ); Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:13:12 -0500 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:08:12 -0800 From: Randy Dunlap To: Dave Jones Cc: Greg KH , Nicolas Mailhot , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Free Linux Driver Development! Message-Id: <20070131140812.07ea6610.randy.dunlap@oracle.com> In-Reply-To: <20070131220607.GB20157@redhat.com> References: <32793.192.54.193.51.1170248792.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <20070131201258.GB15128@kroah.com> <20070131220607.GB20157@redhat.com> Organization: Oracle Linux Eng. X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.3.0 (GTK+ 2.8.10; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:06:07 -0500 Dave Jones wrote: > On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 12:12:58PM -0800, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > > > > There are many out-of-tree drivers (ivtv, lirc, various webcam drivers, > > > enhanced USB keyboard handlers...) with merging not planified or taking > > > ages. > > > > See my above comment about lirc. As for the others, everyone knows > > where we are at, and what the critera is for getting their code into the > > tree, so it's not like we are hiding anywhere :) > > The webcam situation has bugged me a few times. I regularly get reports > from our users that they buy some new ov5xx based camera, and the in-tree > driver doesn't work. The out of tree one is a huge delta, and even > begat a separate driver for the later chips iirc. > > I contacted the upstream author a number of times to find out why he > stopped sending updates. No replies. Just taking his driver and > sending updates myself seemed kinda rude, but at the same time, > users are losing out. Yes, I've contacted him (or one of him :) several times also since I own one of those not-in-tree webcams... Always some holdup. --- ~Randy