From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1161058AbXAaWGO (ORCPT ); Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:06:14 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1161059AbXAaWGN (ORCPT ); Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:06:13 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([66.187.233.31]:53911 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1161058AbXAaWGN (ORCPT ); Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:06:13 -0500 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:06:07 -0500 From: Dave Jones To: Greg KH Cc: Nicolas Mailhot , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Free Linux Driver Development! Message-ID: <20070131220607.GB20157@redhat.com> Mail-Followup-To: Dave Jones , Greg KH , Nicolas Mailhot , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <32793.192.54.193.51.1170248792.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <20070131201258.GB15128@kroah.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070131201258.GB15128@kroah.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 12:12:58PM -0800, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > > There are many out-of-tree drivers (ivtv, lirc, various webcam drivers, > > enhanced USB keyboard handlers...) with merging not planified or taking > > ages. > > See my above comment about lirc. As for the others, everyone knows > where we are at, and what the critera is for getting their code into the > tree, so it's not like we are hiding anywhere :) The webcam situation has bugged me a few times. I regularly get reports from our users that they buy some new ov5xx based camera, and the in-tree driver doesn't work. The out of tree one is a huge delta, and even begat a separate driver for the later chips iirc. I contacted the upstream author a number of times to find out why he stopped sending updates. No replies. Just taking his driver and sending updates myself seemed kinda rude, but at the same time, users are losing out. Dave -- http://www.codemonkey.org.uk