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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Mark Fasheh <mark.fasheh@oracle.com>
Cc: Linux Filesystems <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [rfc][patch 0/3] a faster buffered write deadlock fix?
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 03:04:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070209020402.GC17334@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070209003801.GX14799@ca-server1.us.oracle.com>

On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 04:38:01PM -0800, Mark Fasheh wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 02:07:15PM +0100, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > The problem is that the existing aops interface is crap. "correct, fast,
> > compatible -- choose any 2"
> 
> Agreed. There's lots of problems with the interface (imho), but my biggest
> two issues are the page lock being held on ->prepare_write() /
> ->commit_write() and the fact that the file system only sees the write one
> page at a time
> 
> 
> > So I have finally finished a first slightly-working draft of my new aops
> > op (perform_write) proposal. I would be interested to hear comments about
> > it.  Most of my issues and concerns are in the patch headers themselves,
> > so reply to them.
> 
> I like ->perform_write(). It allows the file system to make re-use of the
> checks in the generic write path, but gives a maximum amount of information
> about the overall operation to be done. There's an added advantage in that
> some file systems (ocfs2 is one of these) want to be more careful about
> ordering page locks, which should be much easier with it.

Yeah, if possible I like a range based interface rather than page
based. As you say it gives the most information with the least constraints.

> If this goes in, it could probably be helpful to me in some of the code I'm
> currently writing which needs to be better about page lock / cluster lock
> ordering and wants to see as much of the (allocating) writes as possible.

I think it would be important to have a non trivial user of this new API
before it goes into mainline. It would be great if you could look at
using it, after it passes some review.

Thanks,
Nick

  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-09  2:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-08 13:07 [rfc][patch 0/3] a faster buffered write deadlock fix? Nick Piggin
2007-02-08 13:07 ` [patch 1/3] fs: add an iovec iterator Nick Piggin
2007-02-08 19:49   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-02-09  1:46     ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-09  2:03       ` Nate Diller
2007-02-09  3:31         ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-09 17:28           ` Zach Brown
2007-03-09 10:40         ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-02-08 23:04   ` Mark Fasheh
2007-02-08 13:07 ` [patch 2/3] fs: introduce perform_write aop Nick Piggin
2007-03-09 10:39   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-03-09 12:52     ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-09 22:01       ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-03-09 23:33     ` Mark Fasheh
2007-03-10  9:25       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-03-12  2:13         ` Mark Fasheh
2007-03-14 13:30         ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-14 15:17           ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-02-08 13:07 ` [patch 3/3] ext2: use " Nick Piggin
2007-02-08 14:47   ` Dmitriy Monakhov
2007-02-09 19:14   ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-09 19:45     ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-10  1:34       ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-10  1:50         ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-09  0:38 ` [rfc][patch 0/3] a faster buffered write deadlock fix? Mark Fasheh
2007-02-09  2:04   ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2007-02-09  8:41 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-09  9:54   ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-09 10:09     ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-09 10:32       ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-09 10:52         ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-09 11:31           ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-09 11:46             ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-09 12:11               ` Nick Piggin

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