From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932604AbXBKX3y (ORCPT ); Sun, 11 Feb 2007 18:29:54 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932721AbXBKX3x (ORCPT ); Sun, 11 Feb 2007 18:29:53 -0500 Received: from gprs189-60.eurotel.cz ([160.218.189.60]:45421 "EHLO amd.ucw.cz" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932604AbXBKX3x (ORCPT ); Sun, 11 Feb 2007 18:29:53 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 00:29:11 +0100 From: Pavel Machek To: Manu Abraham Cc: nigel@nigel.suspend2.net, Willy Tarreau , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Arjan van de Ven , LKML , tilman@imap.cc Subject: Re: NAK new drivers without proper power management? Message-ID: <20070211232911.GI15445@elf.ucw.cz> References: <1171058269.1484.64.camel@nigel.suspend2.net> <1171059433.8675.195.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20070210193851.GA3956@ucw.cz> <200702102320.39531.rjw@sisk.pl> <1171147026.19894.16.camel@nigel.suspend2.net> <20070211064636.GA12171@1wt.eu> <1171234027.4493.88.camel@nigel.suspend2.net> <1a297b360702111457k3a38eefei485f814f980e58c6@mail.gmail.com> <1171236000.4493.116.camel@nigel.suspend2.net> <1a297b360702111525v4f26ad4ax9af8fba45936c22f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1a297b360702111525v4f26ad4ax9af8fba45936c22f@mail.gmail.com> X-Warning: Reading this can be dangerous to your mental health. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060126 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi! > >> > Neither am I. I'm just asking that new drivers have power management as > >> > standard. > > > >> What if the hardware doesn't support power management ? > > > >You would still want to do the cleanup and configuration that you'd do > >for module load/unload. > > > > By adding dummy functions, wouldn't that just look awkward ? No, it is not by dummy functions. Checkout how swsusp works; it needs no hw support, still it needs driver support. Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html