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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:53:18 +0200
From: Petri Kaukasoina <kaukasoina701m2os9b@sci.fi>
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On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 06:49:39PM +0100, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> >The one problem with noatime is that mutt's 'new mail arrived' breaks
> 
> Just why does not it use mtime then to check for New Mail Arrived, like 

I have always used:

  --enable-buffy-size        Use file size attribute instead of access time

Support was there at least in 1998, maybe before.