From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S965360AbXBLT5g (ORCPT ); Mon, 12 Feb 2007 14:57:36 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S965359AbXBLT5g (ORCPT ); Mon, 12 Feb 2007 14:57:36 -0500 Received: from mga06.intel.com ([134.134.136.21]:7747 "EHLO orsmga101.jf.intel.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S965360AbXBLT5g (ORCPT ); Mon, 12 Feb 2007 14:57:36 -0500 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.13,316,1167638400"; d="scan'208"; a="195884705:sNHT21142037" Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 11:57:33 -0800 From: Valerie Henson To: Jan Engelhardt , Dave Jones , Michael Kerrisk , val_henson@linux.interl.com, lkml Subject: Re: Documenting MS_RELATIME Message-ID: <20070212195732.GC5108@nifty> References: <45CE0737.6010103@gmx.net> <20070211005400.GC6849@redhat.com> <20070212065503.GC20919@nifty> <20070212154010.GC7617@redhat.com> <20070212195318.GB14369@elektroni.phys.tut.fi> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070212195318.GB14369@elektroni.phys.tut.fi> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 09:53:18PM +0200, Petri Kaukasoina wrote: > On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 06:49:39PM +0100, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > > >The one problem with noatime is that mutt's 'new mail arrived' breaks > > > > Just why does not it use mtime then to check for New Mail Arrived, like > > I have always used: > > --enable-buffy-size Use file size attribute instead of access time > > Support was there at least in 1998, maybe before. Good point. However, this works for mutt because new mail is an append-only operation. Other apps don't have the guarantee that file modifications that they care about will change the file size. -VAL