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From: Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack.org>,
	Alan <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>,
	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>,
	Zach Brown <zach.brown@oracle.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Suparna Bhattacharya <suparna@in.ibm.com>,
	Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [patch 00/11] ANNOUNCE: "Syslets", generic asynchronous system call support
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:59:40 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070214085939.GA4665@2ka.mipt.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070213221810.GF22104@elte.hu>

On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 11:18:10PM +0100, Ingo Molnar (mingo@elte.hu) wrote:
> 
> * Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru> wrote:
> 
> > [...] it still has a problem - syscall blocks and the same thread thus 
> > is not allowed to continue execution and fill the pipe - so what if 
> > system issues thousands of requests and there are only tens of working 
> > thread at most. [...]
> 
> the same thread is allowed to continue execution even if the system call 
> blocks: take a look at async_schedule(). The blocked system-call is 'put 
> aside' (in a sleeping thread), the kernel switches the user-space 
> context (registers) to a free kernel thread and switches to it - and 
> returns to user-space as if nothing happened - allowing the user-space 
> context to 'fill the pipe' as much as it can. Or did i misunderstand 
> your point?

Let me clarify what I meant.
There is only limited number of threads, which are supposed to execute
blocking context, so when all they are used, main one will block too - I
asked about possibility to reuse the same thread to execute queue of
requests attached to it, each request can block, but if blocking issue
is removed, it would be possible to return.

What I'm asking for is how actually kevent IO state machine functions work
- each IO request is made not through usual mpage and bio allocations,
but with special kevent ones, which do not wait until completion, but
instead in destructor it is either rescheduled (if big file is
transferred, then it is split into parts for transmission) or committed
as ready (thus it becomes possible to read completion through kevent
queue or ring), so there are only several threads, each one does small
job on each request, but the same request can be rescheduled to it again
and again (from bio destructor or ->end_io callback for example).

So I asked if it is possible to extend this state machine to work not
only with blocked syscalls but with non-blocked functions with
possibility to reschedule the same item again.

-- 
	Evgeniy Polyakov

  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-14  9:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 319+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-29 21:21 [patch 00/61] ANNOUNCE: lock validator -V1 Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:22 ` [patch 01/61] lock validator: floppy.c irq-release fix Ingo Molnar
2006-05-30  1:32   ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-29 21:23 ` [patch 02/61] lock validator: forcedeth.c fix Ingo Molnar
2006-05-30  1:33   ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-31  5:40     ` Manfred Spraul
2006-05-29 21:23 ` [patch 03/61] lock validator: sound/oss/emu10k1/midi.c cleanup Ingo Molnar
2006-05-30  1:33   ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-30 10:51     ` Takashi Iwai
2006-05-30 11:03       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2006-05-29 21:23 ` [patch 04/61] lock validator: mutex section binutils workaround Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:23 ` [patch 05/61] lock validator: introduce WARN_ON_ONCE(cond) Ingo Molnar
2006-05-30  1:33   ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-30 17:38     ` Steven Rostedt
2006-06-03 18:09       ` Steven Rostedt
2006-06-04  9:18         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-06-04 13:43           ` Steven Rostedt
2006-05-29 21:23 ` [patch 06/61] lock validator: add __module_address() method Ingo Molnar
2006-05-30  1:33   ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-30 17:45     ` Steven Rostedt
2006-06-23  8:38     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:23 ` [patch 07/61] lock validator: better lock debugging Ingo Molnar
2006-05-30  1:33   ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-23 10:25     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-23 11:06       ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-23 11:04         ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:23 ` [patch 08/61] lock validator: locking API self-tests Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:23 ` [patch 09/61] lock validator: spin/rwlock init cleanups Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:23 ` [patch 10/61] lock validator: locking init debugging improvement Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:23 ` [patch 11/61] lock validator: lockdep: small xfs init_rwsem() cleanup Ingo Molnar
2006-05-30  1:33   ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-30  1:32     ` Nathan Scott
2006-05-29 21:24 ` [patch 12/61] lock validator: beautify x86_64 stacktraces Ingo Molnar
2006-05-30  1:33   ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-29 21:24 ` [patch 13/61] lock validator: x86_64: document stack frame internals Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:24 ` [patch 14/61] lock validator: stacktrace Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:24 ` [patch 15/61] lock validator: x86_64: use stacktrace to generate backtraces Ingo Molnar
2006-05-30  1:33   ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-29 21:24 ` [patch 16/61] lock validator: fown locking workaround Ingo Molnar
2006-05-30  1:34   ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-23  9:10     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:24 ` [patch 17/61] lock validator: sk_callback_lock workaround Ingo Molnar
2006-05-30  1:34   ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-23  9:19     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:24 ` [patch 18/61] lock validator: irqtrace: core Ingo Molnar
2006-05-30  1:34   ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-23 10:42     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:24 ` [patch 19/61] lock validator: irqtrace: cleanup: include/asm-i386/irqflags.h Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:24 ` [patch 20/61] lock validator: irqtrace: cleanup: include/asm-x86_64/irqflags.h Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:24 ` [patch 21/61] lock validator: lockdep: add local_irq_enable_in_hardirq() API Ingo Molnar
2006-05-30  1:34   ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-23  9:28     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-23  9:52       ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-23 10:20         ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:24 ` [patch 22/61] lock validator: add per_cpu_offset() Ingo Molnar
2006-05-30  1:34   ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-23  9:30     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:25 ` [patch 23/61] lock validator: core Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:25 ` [patch 24/61] lock validator: procfs Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:25 ` [patch 25/61] lock validator: design docs Ingo Molnar
2006-05-30  9:07   ` Nikita Danilov
2006-05-29 21:25 ` [patch 26/61] lock validator: prove rwsem locking correctness Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:25 ` [patch 27/61] lock validator: prove spinlock/rwlock " Ingo Molnar
2006-05-30  1:35   ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-23 10:44     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:25 ` [patch 28/61] lock validator: prove mutex " Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:25 ` [patch 29/61] lock validator: print all lock-types on SysRq-D Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:25 ` [patch 30/61] lock validator: x86_64 early init Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:25 ` [patch 31/61] lock validator: SMP alternatives workaround Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:25 ` [patch 32/61] lock validator: do not recurse in printk() Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:25 ` [patch 33/61] lock validator: disable NMI watchdog if CONFIG_LOCKDEP Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 22:49   ` Keith Owens
2006-05-29 21:25 ` [patch 34/61] lock validator: special locking: bdev Ingo Molnar
2006-05-30  1:35   ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-30  5:13     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-30  9:58     ` Al Viro
2006-05-30 10:45     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-29 21:25 ` [patch 35/61] lock validator: special locking: direct-IO Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:26 ` [patch 36/61] lock validator: special locking: serial Ingo Molnar
2006-05-30  1:35   ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-23  9:49     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-23 10:04       ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-23 10:18         ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:26 ` [patch 37/61] lock validator: special locking: dcache Ingo Molnar
2006-05-30  1:35   ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-30 20:51     ` Steven Rostedt
2006-05-30 21:01       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-23  9:51       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:26 ` [patch 38/61] lock validator: special locking: i_mutex Ingo Molnar
2006-05-30 20:53   ` Steven Rostedt
2006-05-30 21:06     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:26 ` [patch 39/61] lock validator: special locking: s_lock Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:26 ` [patch 40/61] lock validator: special locking: futex Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:26 ` [patch 41/61] lock validator: special locking: genirq Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:26 ` [patch 42/61] lock validator: special locking: kgdb Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:26 ` [patch 43/61] lock validator: special locking: completions Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:26 ` [patch 44/61] lock validator: special locking: waitqueues Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:26 ` [patch 45/61] lock validator: special locking: mm Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:26 ` [patch 46/61] lock validator: special locking: slab Ingo Molnar
2006-05-30  1:35   ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-23  9:54     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:26 ` [patch 47/61] lock validator: special locking: skb_queue_head_init() Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:26 ` [patch 48/61] lock validator: special locking: timer.c Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:27 ` [patch 49/61] lock validator: special locking: sched.c Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:27 ` [patch 50/61] lock validator: special locking: hrtimer.c Ingo Molnar
2006-05-30  1:35   ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-23 10:04     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-23 10:38       ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-23 10:52         ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-23 11:52           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-23 12:06             ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-29 21:27 ` [patch 51/61] lock validator: special locking: sock_lock_init() Ingo Molnar
2006-05-30  1:36   ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-23 10:06     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:27 ` [patch 52/61] lock validator: special locking: af_unix Ingo Molnar
2006-05-30  1:36   ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-23 10:07     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:27 ` [patch 53/61] lock validator: special locking: bh_lock_sock() Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:27 ` [patch 54/61] lock validator: special locking: mmap_sem Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:27 ` [patch 55/61] lock validator: special locking: sb->s_umount Ingo Molnar
2006-05-30  1:36   ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-23 10:55     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:27 ` [patch 56/61] lock validator: special locking: jbd Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:27 ` [patch 57/61] lock validator: special locking: posix-timers Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:27 ` [patch 58/61] lock validator: special locking: sch_generic.c Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:27 ` [patch 59/61] lock validator: special locking: xfrm Ingo Molnar
2006-05-30  1:36   ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-29 21:27 ` [patch 60/61] lock validator: special locking: sound/core/seq/seq_ports.c Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 21:28 ` [patch 61/61] lock validator: enable lock validator in Kconfig Ingo Molnar
2006-05-30  1:36   ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-30 13:33   ` Roman Zippel
2006-06-23 11:01     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-26 11:37       ` Roman Zippel
2006-05-29 22:28 ` [patch 00/61] ANNOUNCE: lock validator -V1 Michal Piotrowski
2006-05-29 22:41   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-29 23:09     ` Dave Jones
2006-05-30  5:45       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-30  6:07         ` Michal Piotrowski
2006-05-30 14:10         ` Dave Jones
2006-05-30 14:19           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-30 14:58             ` Dave Jones
2006-05-30 17:11               ` Dominik Brodowski
2006-05-30 19:02                 ` Dave Jones
2006-05-30 19:25                   ` Roland Dreier
2006-05-30 19:34                     ` Dave Jones
2006-05-30 20:41                     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-30 20:44                       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-30 21:58                       ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2006-05-31  8:40                         ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-30 19:39                 ` Dave Jones
2006-05-30 19:53                   ` Ashok Raj
2006-06-01  5:50                     ` Nathan Lynch
2006-05-30 20:54         ` [patch, -rc5-mm1] lock validator: select KALLSYMS_ALL Ingo Molnar
2006-05-30  5:52       ` [patch 00/61] ANNOUNCE: lock validator -V1 Michal Piotrowski
2006-05-30  5:20   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-30  1:35 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-23  9:41   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-30  4:52 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-30  6:20   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-30  6:35   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-30  7:47     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-30  6:37   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-30  9:25     ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-30 10:57       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-30  9:14 ` Benoit Boissinot
2006-05-30 10:26   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-30 11:42     ` Benoit Boissinot
2006-05-30 12:13       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-01 14:42   ` [patch mm1-rc2] lock validator: netlink.c netlink_table_grab fix Frederik Deweerdt
2006-06-02  3:10     ` Zhu Yi
2006-06-02  9:53       ` Frederik Deweerdt
2006-06-05  3:40         ` Zhu Yi
2007-02-13 14:20 ` [patch 00/11] ANNOUNCE: "Syslets", generic asynchronous system call support Ingo Molnar
2007-02-13 15:00   ` Alan
2007-02-13 14:58     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2007-02-13 15:09       ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-02-13 16:24       ` bert hubert
2007-02-13 16:56       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-13 18:56         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-13 19:12           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-13 22:19             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-13 22:18           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-14  8:59             ` Evgeniy Polyakov [this message]
2007-02-14 10:37               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-14 11:10                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-14 17:17                 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-13 20:34       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-13 15:46     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-02-13 20:39       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-13 22:36         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-02-14 11:07         ` Alan
2007-02-13 16:39     ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-13 16:26       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-02-13 17:03         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-13 20:26         ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-13 16:49       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-13 16:42     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-13 20:22   ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-13 21:24     ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-13 22:10       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-13 23:28         ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-13 21:57     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-13 22:50       ` Olivier Galibert
2007-02-13 22:59       ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-02-13 23:24       ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-13 23:25       ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-13 22:26         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-13 22:32           ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-13 22:43             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-13 22:47               ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-14  3:28   ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-14  4:49     ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-14  8:26       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-14  4:42   ` Willy Tarreau
2007-02-14 12:37   ` Pavel Machek
2007-02-14 17:14     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-02-14 20:52   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-14 21:36     ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-15  0:08       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-15  2:07         ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-15  2:44   ` Zach Brown
2007-02-13 14:20 ` [patch 01/11] syslets: add async.h include file, kernel-side API definitions Ingo Molnar
2007-02-13 14:20 ` [patch 02/11] syslets: add syslet.h include file, user API/ABI definitions Ingo Molnar
2007-02-13 20:17   ` Indan Zupancic
2007-02-13 21:43     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-13 22:24       ` Indan Zupancic
2007-02-13 22:32         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-19  0:22   ` Paul Mackerras
2007-02-13 14:20 ` [patch 03/11] syslets: generic kernel bits Ingo Molnar
2007-02-13 14:20 ` [patch 04/11] syslets: core, data structures Ingo Molnar
2007-02-13 14:20 ` [patch 05/11] syslets: core code Ingo Molnar
2007-02-13 23:15   ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-13 22:24     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-13 22:30       ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-13 22:41         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-14  9:13           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-14  9:46             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-14 10:09               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-14 10:30                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-02-14 10:41                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-13 22:57       ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-14 12:43   ` Guillaume Chazarain
2007-02-14 13:17   ` Stephen Rothwell
2007-02-14 20:38   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-02-14 21:02     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-14 21:12       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-14 21:26       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-02-14 21:35         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-15  2:52           ` Zach Brown
2007-02-14 21:44         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-14 21:56         ` Alan
2007-02-14 22:32           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-15  1:01             ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-15  1:28               ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-18 20:01                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-02-18 20:37                   ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-18 21:04                     ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-14 21:09     ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-14 22:09     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-14 23:13       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-02-14 23:44         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-15  0:04           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-15 13:35     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-15 16:09       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-02-15 16:37         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-15 17:42           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-02-15 18:11             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-15 18:25               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-02-15 19:04                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-15 19:28                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-02-15 20:07                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-02-15 21:17                       ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-15 22:34                       ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-16 12:28                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-16 13:28                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-16  8:57                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-16 15:54                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-02-16 16:05                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-16 16:53                           ` Ray Lee
2007-02-16 16:58                             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-16 20:20                               ` Cyrill V. Gorcunov
2007-02-17 10:02                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-17 17:59                                   ` Cyrill V. Gorcunov
2007-02-17  4:54                               ` Ray Lee
2007-02-17 10:15                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-15 18:46             ` bert hubert
2007-02-15 19:10               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-15 19:16               ` Zach Brown
2007-02-15 19:26               ` Eric Dumazet
2007-02-15 17:05         ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-15 17:17           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-15 17:39             ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-15 18:01               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-15 17:17         ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-02-13 14:20 ` [patch 06/11] syslets: core, documentation Ingo Molnar
2007-02-13 20:18   ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-13 21:34     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-13 23:21       ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-14  0:18         ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-14 10:36   ` Russell King
2007-02-14 10:50     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-14 11:04       ` Russell King
2007-02-14 17:52         ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-14 18:03           ` Benjamin LaHaise
2007-02-14 19:45             ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-14 20:03               ` Benjamin LaHaise
2007-02-14 20:14                 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-14 20:34                   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2007-02-14 21:06                     ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-14 21:44                       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2007-02-14 23:17                         ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-14 23:40                           ` Benjamin LaHaise
2007-02-15  0:35                             ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-15  1:32                         ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-14 21:49                     ` [patch] x86: split FPU state from task state Ingo Molnar
2007-02-14 22:04                       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2007-02-14 22:10                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-02-13 14:20 ` [patch 07/11] syslets: x86, add create_async_thread() method Ingo Molnar
     [not found] ` <20061213130211.GT21847@elte.hu>
2007-02-15 10:13   ` [patch 19/31] clockevents: i386 drivers Andrew Morton

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