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From: Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@o2.pl>
To: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
Cc: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>,
	Francois Romieu <romieu@fr.zoreil.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Kyle Lucke <klucke@us.ibm.com>,
	Raghavendra Koushik <raghavendra.koushik@neterion.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] RTNL and flush_scheduled_work deadlocks
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 08:11:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070219071159.GB1686@ff.dom.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45D94347.8060405@candelatech.com>

On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 10:27:19PM -0800, Ben Greear wrote:
> Jarek Poplawski wrote:
> >On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 11:04:02AM -0800, Ben Greear wrote:
> >  
> >>Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> >>    
> >>>On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 23:40:32 -0800
> >>>Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com> wrote:
> >>>      
> >>>>Maybe there should be something like an ASSERT_NOT_RTNL() in the 
> >>>>flush_scheduled_work()
> >>>>method?  If it's performance criticial, #ifdef it out if we're not 
> >>>>debugging locks?
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>You can't safely add a check like that. What if another cpu had acquired
> >>>RTNL and was unrelated.
> >>>      
> >>I guess there isn't a way to see if *this* thread is the owner of the RTNL
> >>currently?  I think lockdep knows the owner...maybe could query it 
> >>somehow,
> >>or just save the owner in the mutex object when debugging is enabled...
> >>    
> >
> >Here is my patch proposal to enable such thing
> >(and to make ASSERT_RTNL simpler btw.).
> >  
> For performance reasons, I'd leave the rtnl_owner inside the
> #if debugging locking code....

This is needed with my second patch. But it is only
proposal, so all could be enhanced of course.
But I don't thing current ASSERT_RTNL has anything
to do with performance. And after all it's for mutex
(slow) path, so I'm not sure if performance is such a
problem.

> You are also changing the semantics of ASSERT_RTNL (assert *this thread* 
> has rtnl, from the
> old behaviour:  assert *some thread* has rtnl).  It may be better this
> way, but it could break code that assumes the old behaviour.

Sure, this should be verified. But this old behavior isn't
very fast and reliable (there is a possibility, we are
asserted wrongly because RTNL lock was held at the moment
by somebody else).

Cheers,
Jarek P.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-19  7:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-14 21:27 [BUG] RTNL and flush_scheduled_work deadlocks Stephen Hemminger
2007-02-14 21:44 ` Ben Greear
2007-02-14 23:54   ` Francois Romieu
2007-02-15 18:58     ` Ben Greear
2007-02-15 22:37 ` [PATCH 1/4] r8169: RTNL and flush_scheduled_work deadlock Francois Romieu
2007-02-20 16:18   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-02-15 22:37 ` [PATCH 2/4] sis190: " Francois Romieu
2007-02-15 22:37 ` [PATCH 3/4] 8139too: " Francois Romieu
2007-02-16  7:59   ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-02-16 20:20     ` Francois Romieu
2007-02-16 20:36       ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-02-17 20:54         ` Francois Romieu
2007-02-19 12:05       ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-02-19 21:08         ` Francois Romieu
2007-04-04 23:38   ` Ben Greear
2007-04-05 11:17     ` Francois Romieu
2007-02-15 22:37 ` [PATCH 4/4] s2io: " Francois Romieu
2007-02-16  7:29 ` [BUG] RTNL and flush_scheduled_work deadlocks Jarek Poplawski
2007-02-16  7:40   ` Ben Greear
2007-02-16  8:10     ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-02-16  8:23       ` Ben Greear
2007-02-16  9:04         ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-02-16 12:12           ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-02-16 16:06             ` Ben Greear
2007-02-20  8:23               ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-02-16 18:31     ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-02-16 19:04       ` Ben Greear
2007-02-19  6:13         ` [PATCH 1/2] " Jarek Poplawski
2007-02-19  6:27           ` Ben Greear
2007-02-19  7:11             ` Jarek Poplawski [this message]
2007-02-19  7:40               ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-03-05  8:36             ` [PATCH v.2] " Jarek Poplawski
2007-02-19  6:55         ` [PATCH 2/2] " Jarek Poplawski
2007-02-19  7:18           ` Jarek Poplawski

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