From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030196AbXDKTgs (ORCPT ); Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:36:48 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030192AbXDKTgs (ORCPT ); Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:36:48 -0400 Received: from vms048pub.verizon.net ([206.46.252.48]:36377 "EHLO vms048pub.verizon.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030188AbXDKTgr (ORCPT ); Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:36:47 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:29:01 -0400 From: Gene Heskett Subject: Re: I give up In-reply-to: <17949.1016.199225.111768@smtp.charter.net> To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Cc: "John Stoffel" , Jan Engelhardt , Olaf Hering , Dave Dillow , Dave Jones , "H. Peter Anvin" , Jeff Garzik Message-id: <200704111529.01412.gene.heskett@gmail.com> Organization: Organization? very little MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <200704091007.58535.gene.heskett@gmail.com> <17949.1016.199225.111768@smtp.charter.net> User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wednesday 11 April 2007, John Stoffel wrote: >>>>>> "Jan" == Jan Engelhardt writes: > >Jan> On Apr 10 2007 23:54, Gene Heskett wrote: >>>>>> So fix tar to not do silly things. >>>>>> Kernel major:minor numbers are not stable. >>>>> >>>>> YOU Tell that to the tar/star people, they are flabbergasted that >>>>> its not stable. It apparently is for every other OS tar can be run >>>>> on. >>>> >>>> FreeBSD also seems to be quite "dynamic". >>>> /dev/da0 is (0,92) for the 'fixit shell' -- how about you? >>> >>> I don't have such a beast here. Whats that supposed to do? > >Jan> Well I was just pointing out that Linux is not the only one to >Jan> have device numbers (for promiment block-backed storage) that can >Jan> move across reboots. > >I guess one work around would be to export your local filesystems via >NFS and then have amanda back them up that way, which means gnutar >should then ignore the devmajor and devminor numbers. > >Or you could just use a hack of the perl script 'tarcust' to hack the >minor/major numbers stored in the index files, and make them match the >current major/minor pair for each filesystem just before you do a >backup. > >A total hack, but probably what I would do, since gtar should (IMNSHO) >just ignore the devmajor/devminor and just go by the name. It's not >like the sysadmin can't shoot himself in the foot anyway. > >Or, again, get away from Amanda and tar and instead move to Bacula. >Smarter software. > >John Does Bacula not use tar for its dirty work? -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Nobody ever died from oven crude poisoning.