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From: David Gibson <dwg@au1.ibm.com>
To: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>,
	linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org,
	Loeliger Jon-LOELIGER <jdl@Freescale.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 6/7] Holly DTS
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 10:24:57 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070514002457.GD6517@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b5cd56b7081eaba062cf056545777989@kernel.crashing.org>

On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 02:02:42PM +0200, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> >>> What exactly did this ?? syntax imply?  I must have missed that 
> >>> thread.
> >>
> >> A property in a DTS file can use that to say
> >> the property should have a value, but it will
> >> be filled in by the bootwrapper instead (memory
> >> address/size, or network MAC address, for
> >> instance).  Presumably the kernel parser would
> >> complain when it sees the this-is-still-undefined
> >> marker.
> >>
> >> The original proposal specified the length of
> >> the property value IIRC, but that isn't necessary
> >> anymore.
> >
> > Well.. sort of.  The first cut at the idea is that ? would be
> > equivalent to zeroes in terms of dtc output, but would act as internal
> > documentation that that property is supposed to be filled in by the
> > bootloader.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > Refinements to try to enforce that would be nice:
> 
> Exactly my point.
> 
> > easiest is to
> > replace it with a configurable poison value.  When using asm output,
> > or with a map file, it might be possible to generate out-of-band
> > information which we can use to check that the right things are filled
> > in.
> >
> > It's not a simply a matter of making the kernel parser recognize the
> > uninitialized info, because there's no way to encode that in the dtb
> > itself.
> 
> There can be, with a new DTB version -- perhaps simply
> define proplen == -1 to mean "undefined" or similar.

That doesn't quite do it, because I'd prefer ? to cover cases where
the property's length is known, just not its value.  In particular
that could be useful for device trees where *only* non-moving edits
are required by the bootloader, letting us use the asm output mode as
intended.

-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-14  0:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-05 16:13 [PATCH v2 0/7] Add support for 750CL Holly board Josh Boyer
2007-05-05 16:14 ` [PATCH v2 0/1] Add tsi108_pci.h for common PCI functions Josh Boyer
2007-05-05 16:15 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] Generalize tsi108 PHY types Josh Boyer
2007-05-05 16:16 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] Generalize TSI 108 PCI setup Josh Boyer
2007-05-05 16:17 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] Add support for 750CL Holly board Josh Boyer
2007-05-07  4:22   ` Paul Mackerras
2007-05-07 10:32     ` Josh Boyer
2007-05-05 16:19 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] Holly defconfig Josh Boyer
2007-05-05 16:20 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] Holly DTS Josh Boyer
2007-05-05 17:21   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-05-05 18:12     ` Josh Boyer
2007-05-05 20:44       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-05-05 21:36         ` Josh Boyer
2007-05-06  0:47           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-05-05 19:13     ` Olof Johansson
2007-05-05 19:46       ` Josh Boyer
2007-05-05 20:51         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-05-05 20:49       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-05-07 17:50         ` Loeliger Jon-LOELIGER
2007-05-09  0:49           ` David Gibson
2007-05-09  7:40             ` Stephen Rothwell
2007-05-09 10:29             ` Josh Boyer
2007-05-09 15:28               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-05-10 23:54                 ` David Gibson
2007-05-12 12:02                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-05-14  0:24                     ` David Gibson [this message]
2007-05-14 12:33                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-05-14 16:16                         ` Scott Wood
2007-05-06  0:40     ` David Gibson
2007-05-07 13:11       ` Josh Boyer
2007-05-08  0:06         ` David Gibson
2007-05-05 16:20 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] Holly bootwrapper Josh Boyer

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