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From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: tsbogend@alpha.franken.de, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [git patches] net driver fixes
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:25:22 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080915232522.GD15421@havoc.gtf.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080915.154105.161656793.davem@davemloft.net>

On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 03:41:05PM -0700, David Miller wrote:
> From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:38:07 -0400
> 
> > He continues to take non-regression fixes and minor cosmetic commits
> > from other trees.
> 
> I could complain about that, but he's pushed back hard enough
> on me that I don't consider that very fruitful.
> 
> Feel free if you want.

My impression was that Linus was in Wrath of God(tm) mode <grin> and he
was reacting strongly for effect not being specific.

But I would rather push my fixes, than complain about others' changes :)


> > Late -rc does not mean "no bug fixes at all except regressions" if you
> > look at the commits going into the kernel tree.
> 
> Actually, since you brought this up, he's allowing this largely in
> obscure subsystems and/or code he happens to be personally working on
> fixes for.

Well, obscure subsystems like PCI

      PCI: Fix printk warnings in setup-bus.c
      PCI: Fix printk warnings in probe.c

or libata

      sata_inic162x: enable LED blinking
      ata: duplicate variable sparse warning

or ia64 (this is not a regression, but a regular bug)

	ia64: fix panic during `modprobe -r xpc'

or bugs that have existed for a long time,

	bfs: fix Lockdep warning

As I understand and observe, Linus never ever wants to create
hard-and-fast rules, in this or anything, but set a general guideline
of not putting in changes (fixes or whatever) late in the game that
have a ghost of a chance of creating further problems.  That is the
underlying issue... don't create new headaches, _especially_ for large
userbases ;-)

So, I -totally- understand your reaction, but I think this is erring
too far on the side of caution.  Oh well...

	Jeff




  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-15 23:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 224+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-13 20:35 [git patches] net driver fixes Jeff Garzik
2008-09-14 22:51 ` Ingo Oeser
2008-09-15 19:09 ` David Miller
2008-09-15 20:17   ` Jeff Garzik
2008-09-15 20:27     ` David Miller
2008-09-15 20:45       ` Jeff Garzik
2008-09-15 21:14         ` David Miller
2008-09-15 21:30           ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-09-15 21:53           ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2008-09-15 22:11             ` David Miller
2008-09-15 22:38               ` Jeff Garzik
2008-09-15 22:41                 ` David Miller
2008-09-15 23:25                   ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2008-09-15 23:28                     ` David Miller
2008-09-16  8:39               ` Adrian Bunk
2008-09-16  9:18                 ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2008-09-16  9:40                   ` Adrian Bunk
2008-09-16 10:48                     ` Adrian Bunk
2008-09-16 11:43                       ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-16 12:15                         ` Adrian Bunk
2008-09-16 13:54                           ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-16 14:02                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-16 14:34                               ` Adrian Bunk
2008-09-16 14:48                                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-16 15:21                                   ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2008-09-16 15:43                                   ` Adrian Bunk
2008-09-16 14:46                             ` Adrian Bunk
2008-09-16 14:46                               ` Adrian Bunk
2008-09-15 21:11       ` David Miller
2008-09-15 21:24         ` Jeff Garzik
2008-09-15 22:07           ` David Miller
2008-09-15 22:34             ` Jeff Garzik
2008-09-15 22:39               ` David Miller
2008-09-16  2:01         ` Simon Horman
2008-09-20  7:24           ` David Miller
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-10-21  6:18 Jeff Garzik
2008-10-21 23:26 ` David Miller
2008-10-16 10:03 Jeff Garzik
2008-10-16 21:16 ` David Miller
2008-08-27 10:36 Jeff Garzik
2008-08-27 11:29 ` David Miller
2008-06-12  2:30 Jeff Garzik
2008-06-12  3:33 ` David Miller
2008-06-10 23:19 Jeff Garzik
2008-06-10 23:35 ` David Miller
2008-04-04  6:33 Jeff Garzik
2008-04-04 10:37 ` Gilles Espinasse
2008-04-04 19:39 ` David Miller
2008-03-29  2:23 Jeff Garzik
2008-03-29  2:57 ` David Miller
2008-03-26  5:31 Jeff Garzik
2008-03-26  6:09 ` David Miller
2008-03-17 12:23 Jeff Garzik
2008-03-17 19:00 ` David Miller
2008-03-05 12:39 Jeff Garzik
2008-03-05 20:25 ` David Miller
2008-02-20 16:55 Jeff Garzik
2008-02-20 21:15 ` David Miller
2008-02-20 21:23   ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-02-20 21:42     ` David Miller
2008-02-20 22:25       ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-02-20 22:57         ` David Miller
2008-02-20 22:40       ` Francois Romieu
2008-02-20 23:07         ` David Miller
2008-02-24  5:48           ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-24  5:59             ` David Miller
2008-02-15 16:03 Jeff Garzik
2008-02-16  0:16 ` David Miller
2008-02-16  0:52   ` Jeff Garzik
2008-01-30  9:44 Jeff Garzik
2008-01-30 10:21 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-01-30 10:38   ` Jeff Garzik
2008-01-30 22:47   ` Francois Romieu
2008-01-31  5:05     ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-01-23 10:05 Jeff Garzik
2008-01-23 11:01 ` David Miller
2008-01-18 20:17 Jeff Garzik
2008-01-12 23:30 Jeff Garzik
2007-12-27 11:28 Meelis Roos
2007-12-27 11:40 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-01-07 12:44   ` Meelis Roos
2008-01-07 21:56     ` David Miller
2008-01-10  9:24       ` Meelis Roos
2007-12-23  5:33 Jeff Garzik
2007-12-23  6:27 ` Al Viro
2007-12-23  6:42   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-12-23  7:02     ` Al Viro
2007-12-18  2:01 Jeff Garzik
2007-12-18  2:15 ` Divy Le Ray
2007-12-18  2:27   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-12-18  2:52     ` Divy Le Ray
2007-12-07 20:31 Jeff Garzik
2007-12-04 20:10 Jeff Garzik
2007-12-01 23:37 Jeff Garzik
2007-11-26 16:12 Jeff Garzik
2007-11-10 21:42 Jeff Garzik
2007-11-06  0:03 Jeff Garzik
2007-11-01 20:05 Jeff Garzik
2007-10-30 18:45 Jeff Garzik
2007-10-20  3:08 Jeff Garzik
2007-10-18  1:07 Jeff Garzik
2007-10-03 18:40 Jeff Garzik
2007-10-02 17:18 Jeff Garzik
2007-09-28  4:21 Jeff Garzik
2007-09-25  5:08 Jeff Garzik
2007-09-20 19:33 Jeff Garzik
2007-09-13  5:30 Jeff Garzik
2007-09-14 18:13 ` Dan Williams
2007-09-14 18:17   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-14 18:31     ` Dan Williams
2007-09-14 19:19       ` Jay Vosburgh
2007-09-14 20:11         ` Dan Williams
2007-09-14 20:39           ` Jay Vosburgh
2007-09-14 21:09   ` Kok, Auke
2007-08-31 18:46 Jeff Garzik
2007-08-25  7:51 Jeff Garzik
2007-08-14  6:10 Jeff Garzik
2007-08-08  0:38 Jeff Garzik
2007-07-30 21:23 Jeff Garzik
2007-07-30 22:36 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-07-30 22:38   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-30 22:57     ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-31 13:10       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-02 14:54 Jeff Garzik
2007-07-02 22:13 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-02 22:15   ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-06-27  7:34 Jeff Garzik
2007-06-20 23:48 Jeff Garzik
2007-06-13  3:06 Jeff Garzik
2007-06-10  3:31 Jeff Garzik
2007-06-03 16:02 Jeff Garzik
2007-05-30 15:13 Jeff Garzik
2007-05-24 22:30 Jeff Garzik
2007-05-21 23:51 Jeff Garzik
2007-05-18  1:37 Jeff Garzik
2007-05-15 23:43 Jeff Garzik
2007-04-28  0:42 Jeff Garzik
2007-04-24 17:53 Jeff Garzik
2007-04-19 19:31 Jeff Garzik
2007-04-11 18:04 Jeff Garzik
2007-04-04  4:01 Jeff Garzik
2007-03-29 20:10 Jeff Garzik
2007-03-28  7:31 Jeff Garzik
2007-03-23  6:57 Jeff Garzik
2007-03-23 21:56 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-03-29 12:25   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-03-30  7:32     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-03-30  7:46       ` Samuel Ortiz
2007-03-15 19:56 Jeff Garzik
2007-03-09 17:33 Jeff Garzik
2007-03-06 11:48 Jeff Garzik
2007-03-12 10:02 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-03-13  0:02   ` David Miller
2007-03-03  1:37 Jeff Garzik
     [not found] <20070227110233.GA14138@havoc.gtf.org>
2007-03-02  5:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-02  6:31   ` Dan Williams
2007-03-02  7:41   ` Kok, Auke
2007-03-02 16:09     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-02 16:17       ` Kok, Auke
2007-02-02 13:45 Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 14:46 Jeff Garzik
2007-01-23  7:12 Jeff Garzik
2007-01-22 18:55 Jeff Garzik
2007-01-22 19:03 ` Auke Kok
2007-01-22 19:20   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-22 19:40     ` Auke Kok
2007-01-23 21:30       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-08  9:47 Jeff Garzik
2007-01-08 10:09 ` Li Yang-r58472
2007-01-08 11:40   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-08 21:17     ` Kumar Gala
2007-01-09  7:46       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-26 22:46 Jeff Garzik
2007-01-02  2:23 ` Herbert Xu
2006-12-02  4:38 Jeff Garzik
2006-11-10 16:14 Jeff Garzik
2006-11-07 10:41 Jeff Garzik
2006-11-06  8:16 Jeff Garzik
2006-11-01  2:12 Jeff Garzik
2006-10-21 18:38 Jeff Garzik
2006-10-11  9:04 Jeff Garzik
2006-09-22 22:07 Jeff Garzik
2006-09-17  5:07 Jeff Garzik
2006-09-13 16:27 Jeff Garzik
     [not found] <20060824045456.GA5883@havoc.gtf.org>
2006-08-24  5:00 ` Greg KH
2006-08-09  6:25 Jeff Garzik
2006-08-09 18:48 ` Greg KH
2006-08-03 21:55 Jeff Garzik
2006-07-29  5:36 Jeff Garzik
2006-07-17 17:36 Jeff Garzik
2006-07-12 23:18 Jeff Garzik
2006-06-08 21:39 Jeff Garzik
2006-05-24  7:04 Jeff Garzik
2006-05-02 19:30 Jeff Garzik
2006-04-26 10:26 Jeff Garzik
2006-04-20 21:46 Jeff Garzik
2006-04-12 22:14 Jeff Garzik
2006-04-12 22:43 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-12 22:45   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-04-12 22:47     ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-12 23:04       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-03-17  0:30 Jeff Garzik
2006-03-17  0:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-11 18:40 Jeff Garzik
2006-03-06 19:39 Jeff Garzik
2006-02-28 23:10 Jeff Garzik
2006-02-24  5:22 Jeff Garzik
2006-02-24  7:59 ` Wolfgang Hoffmann
2006-02-24 16:14   ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-02-24 17:28     ` Wolfgang Hoffmann
2006-02-17 21:24 Jeff Garzik
2006-02-07  8:03 Jeff Garzik
2006-01-28 21:44 Jeff Garzik
2005-12-24 15:14 Jeff Garzik
2005-09-23 23:09 Jeff Garzik
2005-09-22  4:11 Jeff Garzik
2005-09-16  7:38 Jeff Garzik
2005-09-16 21:16 ` Al Boldi
2005-09-14 13:14 Jeff Garzik
2005-09-14 15:38 ` Frank Pavlic
2005-09-14 15:40   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-07-31 23:30 Jeff Garzik
2005-07-31 23:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-08-01  4:30   ` Miles Bader

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