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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: eranian@gmail.com
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Vince Weaver <vince@deater.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>,
	Robert Richter <robert.richter@amd.com>,
	Arjan van de Veen <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [patch] Performance Counters for Linux, v3
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 00:13:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081214231332.GA26942@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7c86c4470812121001i765d663bq6db3080b633a1eef@mail.gmail.com>


* stephane eranian <eranian@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Given the level of abstractions you are using for the API, and given 
> your argument that the kernel can do the HW resource scheduling better 
> than anybody else.
> 
> What happens in the following test case:
> 
>    - 2-way system (cpu0, cpu1)
> 
>    - on cpu0, two processes P1, P2, each self-monitoring and counting event E1.
>      Event E1 can only be measured on counter C1.
> 
>    - on cpu1, there is a cpu-wide session, monitoring event E1, thus using C1
> 
>    - the scheduler decides to migrate P1 onto CPU1. You now have a
>      conflict on C1.
> 
> How is this managed?

If there's a single unit of sharable resource [such as an event counter, 
or a physical CPU], then there's just three main possibilities: either 
user 1 gets it all, or user 2 gets it all, or they share it.

We've implemented the essence of these variants, with sharing the resource 
being the sane default, and with the sysadmin also having a configuration 
vector to reserve the resource to himself permanently. (There could be 
more variations of this.)

What is your point?

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-12-14 23:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-11 15:52 [patch] Performance Counters for Linux, v3 Ingo Molnar
2008-12-11 18:02 ` Vince Weaver
2008-12-12  8:25   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-12-12  8:35     ` stephane eranian
2008-12-12  8:51       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-12-12  9:00         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-12-12  9:07           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-12  8:59     ` stephane eranian
2008-12-12  9:23       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-12-12 10:21         ` Robert Richter
2008-12-12 10:59           ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-12-12 11:35             ` Robert Richter
2008-12-12 16:45         ` Chris Friesen
2008-12-12 17:42         ` stephane eranian
2008-12-12 18:01           ` stephane eranian
2008-12-12 19:45             ` Chris Friesen
2008-12-15 14:50               ` stephane eranian
2008-12-15 22:32                 ` Chris Friesen
2008-12-17  7:45                   ` stephane eranian
2008-12-14 23:13             ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2008-12-15  0:37               ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-15 12:58                 ` stephane eranian
2008-12-15 14:42                 ` stephane eranian
2008-12-15 20:58               ` stephane eranian
2008-12-15 22:53               ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-13 11:17           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-12-13 13:48             ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-12-13 17:44             ` stephane eranian
2008-12-14  1:02             ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-14 22:37               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-15  0:50                 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-15 13:02                   ` stephane eranian
2008-12-12 17:03     ` Samuel Thibault
2008-12-12 17:11       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-12-12 18:18     ` Vince Weaver
2008-12-11 18:35 ` Andrew Morton
2008-12-12  6:22   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-11 19:11 ` Tony Luck
2008-12-11 19:34   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-12  8:29     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-12-12  8:54       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-12 13:42       ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-14 14:51 ` Performance counter API review was " Andi Kleen
2009-02-02 20:03   ` Corey Ashford
2009-02-02 20:33     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-03 16:53       ` Maynard Johnson
2009-02-04  2:18       ` Paul Mackerras
2009-02-04  2:32         ` Nathan Lynch
2009-02-04  8:45         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-04 10:47           ` Paul Mackerras
2009-02-04 10:51             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-12-11 22:05 William Cohen

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