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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	rusty@rustcorp.com.au, tglx@linutronix.de, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, hpa@zytor.com, jeremy@goop.org,
	cpw@sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET x86/core/percpu] implement dynamic percpu allocator
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:17:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090223101741.GP9582@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49A1F132.8080004@kernel.org>


* Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> wrote:

> Hello, Ingo.
> 
> Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > Heck no. It is absolutely crazy to complicate __pa()/__va() in 
> > _any_ way just to 'save' one more 2MB dTLB.
> 
> Are __pa()/__va() that hot paths?  Or am I over-estimating the 
> cost of 2MB dTLB?

yes, __pa()/__va() is a very hot path - in a defconfig they are 
used in about a thousand different places.

In fact it would be nice to get rid of the __phys_addr() 
redirection on the 64-bit side (which is non-linear and a 
function there, and all __pa()s go through it) and make it a 
constant offset again.

This isnt trivial/possible to do though as .data/.bss is in the 
high alias. (high .text aliases alone wouldnt be a big issue to 
fix, but the data aliases are an issue.)

Moving .data/.bss into the linear space isnt feasible as we'd 
lose RIP-relative addressing shortcuts.

Maybe we could figure out the places that do __pa() on a high 
alias and gradually eliminate them. __pa() on .data/.bss is a 
rare and unusal thing to do, and CONFIG_DEBUG_VIRTUAL could warn 
about them without crashing the kernel.

Later on we could make this check unconditional, and then switch 
over __pa() to addr-PAGE_OFFSET in the !CONFIG_DEBUG_VIRTUAL 
case (which is the default).

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-23 10:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-18 12:04 [PATCHSET x86/core/percpu] implement dynamic percpu allocator Tejun Heo
2009-02-18 12:04 ` [PATCH 01/10] vmalloc: call flush_cache_vunmap() from unmap_kernel_range() Tejun Heo
2009-02-19 12:06   ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-19 22:36     ` David Miller
2009-02-18 12:04 ` [PATCH 02/10] module: fix out-of-range memory access Tejun Heo
2009-02-19 12:08   ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-20  7:16   ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-18 12:04 ` [PATCH 03/10] module: reorder module pcpu related functions Tejun Heo
2009-02-18 12:04 ` [PATCH 04/10] alloc_percpu: change percpu_ptr to per_cpu_ptr Tejun Heo
2009-02-18 12:04 ` [PATCH 05/10] alloc_percpu: add align argument to __alloc_percpu Tejun Heo
2009-02-18 12:04 ` [PATCH 06/10] percpu: kill percpu_alloc() and friends Tejun Heo
2009-02-19  0:17   ` Rusty Russell
2009-03-11 18:36   ` Tony Luck
2009-03-11 22:44     ` Rusty Russell
2009-03-12  2:06     ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-18 12:04 ` [PATCH 07/10] vmalloc: implement vm_area_register_early() Tejun Heo
2009-02-19  0:55   ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-19 12:09   ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-18 12:04 ` [PATCH 08/10] vmalloc: add un/map_kernel_range_noflush() Tejun Heo
2009-02-19 12:17   ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-20  1:27     ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-20  7:15   ` Subject: [PATCH 08/10 UPDATED] " Tejun Heo
2009-02-20  8:32     ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-21  3:21       ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-18 12:04 ` [PATCH 09/10] percpu: implement new dynamic percpu allocator Tejun Heo
2009-02-19 10:10   ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-19 11:01     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-20  2:45       ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-19 12:07     ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-20  2:35     ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-20  3:04       ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-20  5:29         ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-24  2:52         ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-19 11:51   ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-20  3:01     ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-20  3:02       ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-24  2:56       ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-24  5:27         ` [PATCH tj-percpu] percpu: add __read_mostly to variables which are mostly read only Tejun Heo
2009-02-24  5:47         ` [PATCH 09/10] percpu: implement new dynamic percpu allocator Tejun Heo
2009-02-24 17:41           ` Luck, Tony
2009-02-26  3:17             ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-27 19:41               ` Luck, Tony
2009-02-19 12:36   ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-20  3:04     ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-20  7:30   ` [PATCH UPDATED " Tejun Heo
2009-02-20  8:37     ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-21  3:23       ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-21  3:42         ` [PATCH tj-percpu] percpu: s/size/bytes/g in new percpu allocator and interface Tejun Heo
2009-02-21  7:48           ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-21  7:55             ` [PATCH tj-percpu] percpu: clean up size usage Tejun Heo
2009-02-21  7:56               ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-18 12:04 ` [PATCH 10/10] x86: convert to the new dynamic percpu allocator Tejun Heo
2009-02-18 13:43 ` [PATCHSET x86/core/percpu] implement " Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19  0:31   ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-19 10:51   ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-19 11:06     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 12:14       ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-20  3:08         ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-20  5:36           ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-20  7:33             ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-19  0:30 ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-19 11:07   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-20  3:17     ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-20  9:32       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-21  7:10         ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-21  7:33           ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-22 19:38             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23  0:43               ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-23 10:17                 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-02-23 13:38                   ` [patch] x86: optimize __pa() to be linear again on 64-bit x86 Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23 14:08                     ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-23 14:53                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-24 16:00                         ` Andi Kleen
2009-02-27  5:57                         ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-27  6:57                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-27  7:11                             ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-22 19:27           ` [PATCHSET x86/core/percpu] implement dynamic percpu allocator Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23  0:47             ` Tejun Heo

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