From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Lib8E-0007Ti-AY for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:10:58 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Lib8C-0007TQ-5R for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:10:56 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Lib89-0007T9-TI for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:10:54 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50906 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Lib89-0007Sz-LC for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:10:53 -0400 Received: from mail.nexedi.com ([91.121.25.85]:57079 helo=nexedi.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Lib89-00089V-8v for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:10:53 -0400 Received: from [10.8.0.46] (unknown [10.8.0.46]) by nexedi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C523D9EF for ; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 22:10:46 +0100 (CET) From: "Yoshinori K. Okuji" Organization: enbug.org To: The development of GRUB 2 Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 06:10:40 +0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <49A50DA2.20604@netsyncro.com> <200903132050.12393.okuji@enbug.org> <49BA5037.60007@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49BA5037.60007@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903150610.40823.okuji@enbug.org> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Subject: Re: Migrating to GRUB 2 in Debian (Re: Interesting GSoC project ideas for 09) X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:10:56 -0000 On Friday 13 March 2009 21:23:19 phcoder wrote: > Look at load_env/save_env commands and grub-editenv util Thanks. Now I really regret that I didn't find those additions earlier. I do not like this implementation for the following reasons: - The saved file is not plain text, unlike GRUB Legacy. This is a bad choice. Please let me know the reason why it must be binary, if any. - The command names are ugly. Why didn't anybody follow Pavel's advise using "env"? - The utility name is also ugly. I like Pavel's suggestion "grub-env". If nobody stops me, I will rewrite it in one week, without caring about backward compatibility. Regards, Okuji > > Yoshinori K. Okuji wrote: > > On Thursday 05 March 2009 05:59:52 Robert Millan wrote: > >> We don't need a complete match of all the GRUB Legacy features in order > >> to migrate. The things I identified as needed for migration in Debian > >> are listed here: > >> > >> http://wiki.debian.org/GrubTransition > >> > >> I think Xen is fixed now though (someone can confirm?). For grub-reboot > >> / savedefault almost all the pieces are there already (thanks to bean). > >> > >> For lock / password we need to agree on whether the proposed approach is > >> acceptable, or otherwise what needs to be done. > > > > I have the same regression problem as Debian, personally. The > > password-based security feature is not quite important for me, but > > savedefault / fallback are critical to use GRUB in a remote environment > > (to upgrade / replace a kernel safely). > > > > So, I am ready for spending time to review any patch about this. Could > > you pinpoint where the "proposed approach" is? > > > > Regards, > > Okuji > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Grub-devel mailing list > > Grub-devel@gnu.org > > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/grub-devel