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From: "Björn Steinbrink" <B.Steinbrink@gmx.de>
To: Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>
Cc: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>,
	Sverre Rabbelier <srabbelier@gmail.com>,
	david@lang.hm, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Nicolas Sebrecht <nicolas.s-dev@laposte.net>,
	"Robin H. Johnson" <robbat2@gentoo.org>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Performance issue: initial git clone causes massive repack
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:21:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090407142147.GA4413@atjola.homenet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0904070903020.6741@xanadu.home>

On 2009.04.07 09:13:45 -0400, Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Apr 2009, Jakub Narebski wrote:
> 
> > Björn Steinbrink <B.Steinbrink@gmx.de> writes:
> > > On 2009.04.05 23:24:27 -0400, Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 5 Apr 2009, Sverre Rabbelier wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > I agree here, we should either say "look, we don't really support big
> > > > > repositories because [explanation here], unless you [workarounds
> > > > > here]" OR we should work to improve the support we do have. Of course,
> > > > > the latter option does not magically create developer time to work on
> > > > > that, but if we do go that way we should at least tell people that we
> > > > > are aware of the problems and that it's on the global TODO list (not
> > > > > necessarily on anyone's personal TODO list though).
> > > > 
> > > > For the record... I at least am aware of the problem and it is indeed on 
> > > > my personal git todo list.  Not that I have a clear solution yet (I've 
> > > > been pondering on some git packing issues for almost 4 years now).
> > > > 
> > > > Still, in this particular case, the problem appears to be unclear to me, 
> > > > like "this shouldn't be so bad".
> > > 
> > > It's not primarily pack-objects, I think. It's the rev-list that's run
> > > by upload-pack.  Running "git rev-list --objects --all" on that repo
> > > eats about 2G RSS, easily killing the system's cache on a small box,
> > > leading to swapping and a painful time reading the packfile contents
> > > afterwards to send them to the client.
> > 
> > Than I think that "packfile caching" GSoC project (which is IIRC
> > "object enumeration caching", or at least includes it) should help
> > here.
> 
> NO!
> 
> Please people stop being so creative with all sort of ways to simply 
> avoid the real issue and focussing on a real fix.  Git has not become 
> what it is today by the accumulation of workarounds and ignorance of 
> fundamental issues.
> 
> Having git-rev-list consume about 2G RSS for the enumeration of 4M 
> objects is simply inacceptable, period.  This is the equivalent of 500 
> bytes per object pinned in memory on average, just for listing object, 
> which is completely silly. We ought to do better than that.

Ah, crap, I might have been fooled by "ps aux", top actually shows about
1.3G being shared, likely the mmapped pack files. And that will be
reused, assuming the box has enough memory to keep all that stuff.

But that's still 700MB or about 150 bytes per object on average.

A "struct tree" is 40 bytes here, adding the average path length (19 in
this repo) that's 59 byte, leaving about 90 bytes of "overhead" per
object, as end the end we seem to care only about the sha1 and the path
name.

And in the upload-pack case, there's also pack-objects running
concurrently, already going up to 950M RSS/100M shared _while_ the
rev-list is still running. So that's 3G of memory usage (2G if you
ignore the shared stuff) before the "Compressing objects" part even
starts. And of course, pack-objects will apparently start to mmap the
pack files only after the rev-list finished, so a "smart" OS might have
removed a lot of the mmapped stuff from memory again, causing it to be
re-read. :-/

Björn

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-04-07 14:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-04 22:07 Performance issue: initial git clone causes massive repack Robin H. Johnson
2009-04-05  0:05 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2009-04-05  0:37   ` Robin H. Johnson
2009-04-05  3:54     ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2009-04-05  4:08       ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2009-04-05  7:04       ` Robin H. Johnson
2009-04-05 19:02         ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2009-04-05 19:17           ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-04-05 23:02             ` Robin H. Johnson
2009-04-05 20:43           ` Robin H. Johnson
2009-04-05 21:08             ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-04-05 21:28           ` david
2009-04-05 21:36             ` Sverre Rabbelier
2009-04-06  3:24               ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-07  8:10                 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-07  9:45                   ` Jakub Narebski
2009-04-07 13:13                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-07 13:37                       ` Jakub Narebski
2009-04-07 14:03                         ` Jon Smirl
2009-04-07 17:59                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-07 14:21                       ` Björn Steinbrink [this message]
2009-04-07 17:48                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-07 18:12                           ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-07 18:56                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-07 20:27                               ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-08  4:52                                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-10 20:38                                   ` Robin H. Johnson
2009-04-11  1:58                                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-11  7:06                                       ` Mike Hommey
2009-04-14 15:52                                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-04-14 20:17                                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-14 20:27                                         ` Robin H. Johnson
2009-04-14 21:02                                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-15  3:09                                           ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2009-04-15  5:53                                             ` Robin H. Johnson
2009-04-15  5:54                                             ` Junio C Hamano
2009-04-15 11:51                                               ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-22  1:15                                           ` Sam Vilain
2009-04-22  9:55                                             ` Mike Ralphson
2009-04-22 11:24                                               ` Pieter de Bie
2009-04-22 13:19                                               ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-04-22 14:35                                                 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-04-22 16:40                                                   ` Andreas Ericsson
2009-04-22 17:06                                                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-04-23 19:30                                               ` Christian Couder
2009-04-22 14:14                                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-22 22:01                                               ` Sam Vilain
2009-04-22 22:50                                                 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-22 23:07                                                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-22 23:30                                                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-04-23  3:16                                                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-14 20:30                                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-04-07 20:29                             ` Jeff King
2009-04-07 20:35                               ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-08 11:28                       ` [PATCH] process_{tree,blob}: Remove useless xstrdup calls Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-10 22:20                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-11  0:27                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-11  1:15                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-11  1:34                               ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-11 13:41                               ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-11 14:07                                 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-11 18:06                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-11 18:22                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-11 19:22                                       ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-11 20:50                                     ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-11 21:43                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-11 23:24                                         ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-11 18:19                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-11 19:40                                     ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-11 19:58                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-05 22:59             ` Performance issue: initial git clone causes massive repack Nicolas Sebrecht
2009-04-05 23:20               ` david
2009-04-05 23:28                 ` Robin Rosenberg
2009-04-06  3:34                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-06  5:15                   ` Junio C Hamano
2009-04-06 13:12                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-06 13:52                     ` Jon Smirl
2009-04-06 14:19                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-06 14:37                         ` Jon Smirl
2009-04-06 14:48                           ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-04-06 15:14                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-06 15:28                             ` Jon Smirl
2009-04-06 16:14                               ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-06 11:22                   ` Matthieu Moy
2009-04-06 13:29                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-06 14:03                       ` Robin H. Johnson
2009-04-06 14:14                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-07 10:11               ` Martin Langhoff
2009-04-05 19:57 ` Jeff King
2009-04-05 23:38   ` Robin H. Johnson
2009-04-05 23:42     ` Robin H. Johnson
     [not found]     ` <0015174c150e49b5740466d7d2c2@google.com>
2009-04-06  0:29       ` Robin H. Johnson
2009-04-06  3:10     ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2009-04-06  4:09       ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-06  4:06     ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-06 14:20       ` Robin H. Johnson
2009-04-11 17:24 ` Mark Levedahl

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