From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755728AbZDVJ6M (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Apr 2009 05:58:12 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752408AbZDVJ55 (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Apr 2009 05:57:57 -0400 Received: from mx2.mail.elte.hu ([157.181.151.9]:48584 "EHLO mx2.mail.elte.hu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751497AbZDVJ54 (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Apr 2009 05:57:56 -0400 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:57:27 +0200 From: Ingo Molnar To: KOSAKI Motohiro , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric?= Weisbecker , Li Zefan , Pekka Enberg , eduard.munteanu@linux360.ro Cc: Larry Woodman , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, riel@redhat.com, rostedt@goodmis.org Subject: Re: [Patch] mm tracepoints update Message-ID: <20090422095727.GG18226@elte.hu> References: <1240353915.11613.39.camel@dhcp-100-19-198.bos.redhat.com> <20090422095916.627A.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090422095916.627A.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-ELTE-VirusStatus: clean X-ELTE-SpamScore: -1.5 X-ELTE-SpamLevel: X-ELTE-SpamCheck: no X-ELTE-SpamVersion: ELTE 2.0 X-ELTE-SpamCheck-Details: score=-1.5 required=5.9 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no SpamAssassin version=3.2.3 -1.5 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org * KOSAKI Motohiro wrote: > > I've cleaned up the mm tracepoints to track page allocation and > > freeing, various types of pagefaults and unmaps, and critical > > page reclamation routines. This is useful for debugging memory > > allocation issues and system performance problems under heavy > > memory loads. > > In past thread, Andrew pointed out bare page tracer isn't useful. (do you have a link to that mail?) > Can you make good consumer? These MM tracepoints would be automatically seen by the ftrace-analyzer GUI tool for example: git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/utils/kernel/ftrace/ftrace.git And could also be seen by other tools such as kmemtrace. Beyond, of course, embedding in function tracer output. Here's the list of advantages of the types of tracepoints Larry is proposing: - zero-copy and per-cpu splice() based tracing - binary tracing without printf overhead - structured logging records exposed under /debug/tracing/events - trace events embedded in function tracer output and other plugins - user-defined, per tracepoint filter expressions I think the main review question is: are they properly structured and do they expose essential information to analyze behavioral details of the kernel in this area? Ingo From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail191.messagelabs.com (mail191.messagelabs.com [216.82.242.19]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A276B00A9 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 05:56:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:57:27 +0200 From: Ingo Molnar Subject: Re: [Patch] mm tracepoints update Message-ID: <20090422095727.GG18226@elte.hu> References: <1240353915.11613.39.camel@dhcp-100-19-198.bos.redhat.com> <20090422095916.627A.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090422095916.627A.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org To: KOSAKI Motohiro , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric?= Weisbecker , Li Zefan , Pekka Enberg , eduard.munteanu@linux360.ro Cc: Larry Woodman , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, riel@redhat.com, rostedt@goodmis.org List-ID: * KOSAKI Motohiro wrote: > > I've cleaned up the mm tracepoints to track page allocation and > > freeing, various types of pagefaults and unmaps, and critical > > page reclamation routines. This is useful for debugging memory > > allocation issues and system performance problems under heavy > > memory loads. > > In past thread, Andrew pointed out bare page tracer isn't useful. (do you have a link to that mail?) > Can you make good consumer? These MM tracepoints would be automatically seen by the ftrace-analyzer GUI tool for example: git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/utils/kernel/ftrace/ftrace.git And could also be seen by other tools such as kmemtrace. Beyond, of course, embedding in function tracer output. Here's the list of advantages of the types of tracepoints Larry is proposing: - zero-copy and per-cpu splice() based tracing - binary tracing without printf overhead - structured logging records exposed under /debug/tracing/events - trace events embedded in function tracer output and other plugins - user-defined, per tracepoint filter expressions I think the main review question is: are they properly structured and do they expose essential information to analyze behavioral details of the kernel in this area? Ingo -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: email@kvack.org