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From: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch update] Re: Run-time PM idea (was: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/2] PM: Rearrange core suspend code)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 01:15:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200906110115.30729.oliver__27233.3535286181$1244675734$gmane$org@neukum.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200906102331.14267.rjw@sisk.pl>

Am Mittwoch, 10. Juni 2009 23:31:13 schrieb Rafael J. Wysocki:
> > > +/**
> > > + * pm_check_children - Check if all children of a device have been
> > > suspended. + * @dev: Device to check.
> > > + *
> > > + * Returns 0 if all children of the device have been suspended or
> > > -EBUSY + * otherwise.
> > > + */
> >
> > We might want to do a runtime suspend even if the device's children
> > aren't already suspended.  For example, you could suspend a link while
> > leaving the device on the other end of the link at full power --
> > especially if powering down the device is slow but changing the link's
> > power level is fast.
>
> Well, this means that the dependencies between devices in the device tree
> are pretty much useless for the run-time PM as far as the core is
> concerned.  In which case, why did you mention them at all?

Some bussystems need this constraint others don't or only for some nodes.
We need a way to communicate this to the core.

	Regards
		Oliver

  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-10 23:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 199+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-06 22:54 [RFC][PATCH 0/2] PM: Rearrange core suspend code Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-06 22:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/2] PM: Separate suspend to RAM functionality from core Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-06 22:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-08  6:36   ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-08  6:36   ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-06 22:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] PM/Hibernate: Rename disk.c to hibernate.c Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-06 22:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-08  6:37   ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-08  6:37   ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-07 20:51 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/2] PM: Rearrange core suspend code Alan Stern
2009-06-07 20:51 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2009-06-07 21:46   ` Run-time PM idea (was: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/2] PM: Rearrange core suspend code) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-07 21:46   ` Run-time PM idea (was: Re: [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-07 22:02     ` Run-time PM idea (was: " Oliver Neukum
2009-06-07 22:02     ` Run-time PM idea (was: Re: [linux-pm] " Oliver Neukum
2009-06-07 22:02       ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-07 22:05     ` Run-time PM idea (was: " Oliver Neukum
2009-06-07 22:05     ` [linux-pm] " Oliver Neukum
2009-06-08 11:29       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-08 11:29       ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-08 12:04         ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-08 18:34           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-09  7:25             ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-09  7:25             ` [linux-pm] " Oliver Neukum
2009-06-09 14:33               ` Alan Stern
2009-06-09 14:33               ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2009-06-09 14:33                 ` Alan Stern
2009-06-09 14:48                 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-09 14:48                   ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-09 14:48                 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-09 22:44               ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-09 22:44               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-08 18:34           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-08 12:04         ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-08 20:35         ` Alan Stern
2009-06-08 20:35         ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2009-06-08 20:35           ` Alan Stern
2009-06-08 21:31           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-09  2:49             ` Alan Stern
2009-06-09  2:49               ` Alan Stern
2009-06-09 22:57               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-10  8:29                 ` [patch update] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-10  8:29                 ` [patch update] Re: [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-10 14:20                   ` [patch update] " Oliver Neukum
2009-06-10 14:20                   ` [patch update] Re: [linux-pm] " Oliver Neukum
2009-06-10 19:27                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-10 21:38                       ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-10 21:38                         ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-10 22:01                         ` [patch update] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-10 22:01                         ` [patch update] Re: [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-10 23:07                           ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-10 23:07                             ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-10 23:42                             ` [patch update] " Alan Stern
2009-06-10 23:42                             ` [patch update] Re: [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2009-06-10 23:42                               ` Alan Stern
2009-06-11 13:48                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-11 13:57                                 ` [patch update] " Oliver Neukum
2009-06-11 13:57                                 ` [patch update] Re: [linux-pm] " Oliver Neukum
2009-06-11 14:16                                   ` [patch update] " Alan Stern
2009-06-11 14:16                                   ` [patch update] Re: [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2009-06-11 14:16                                     ` Alan Stern
2009-06-11 19:38                                     ` [patch update] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-11 19:38                                     ` [patch update] Re: [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-11 13:48                               ` [patch update] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-11 13:46                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-11 13:46                             ` [patch update] Re: [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-10 23:07                           ` [patch update] " Oliver Neukum
2009-06-10 21:38                       ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-10 19:27                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-10 21:14                   ` Alan Stern
2009-06-10 21:14                   ` [patch update] Re: [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2009-06-10 21:31                     ` [patch update] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-10 21:31                     ` [patch update] Re: [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-10 23:15                       ` Oliver Neukum [this message]
2009-06-10 23:15                       ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-10 23:15                         ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-11  5:27                         ` [patch update] " Magnus Damm
2009-06-11  5:27                         ` [patch update] Re: [linux-pm] " Magnus Damm
2009-06-11  5:27                           ` Magnus Damm
2009-06-10 23:42                       ` Alan Stern
2009-06-11 14:17                         ` [patch update] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-11 14:17                           ` [patch update] Re: [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-11 14:52                           ` [patch update] " Alan Stern
2009-06-11 14:52                           ` [patch update] Re: [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2009-06-11 15:06                             ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-11 15:06                               ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-11 15:22                               ` Alan Stern
2009-06-11 15:22                                 ` Alan Stern
2009-06-11 16:05                                 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-11 16:05                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-11 18:36                                   ` [patch update] " Alan Stern
2009-06-11 18:36                                   ` [patch update] Re: [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2009-06-11 18:36                                     ` Alan Stern
2009-06-11 21:05                                     ` [patch update] " Oliver Neukum
2009-06-11 21:05                                     ` [patch update] Re: [linux-pm] " Oliver Neukum
2009-06-11 21:05                                       ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-12  2:16                                       ` Alan Stern
2009-06-12  2:16                                         ` Alan Stern
2009-06-12  8:15                                         ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-12 14:32                                           ` [patch update] " Alan Stern
2009-06-12 14:32                                           ` [patch update] Re: [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2009-06-12 14:32                                             ` Alan Stern
2009-06-12 19:09                                             ` [patch update] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-12 19:09                                             ` [patch update] Re: [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-12 19:48                                               ` Alan Stern
2009-06-12 19:56                                                 ` [patch update] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-12 19:56                                                 ` [patch update] Re: [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-12 21:23                                                   ` Alan Stern
2009-06-12 23:06                                                     ` [patch update] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-12 23:06                                                     ` [patch update] Re: [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-13 18:08                                                       ` [patch update] " Alan Stern
2009-06-13 18:08                                                       ` [patch update] Re: [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2009-06-13 22:04                                                         ` [patch update] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-13 22:04                                                         ` [patch update] Re: [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-12 21:23                                                   ` [patch update] " Alan Stern
2009-06-12 19:48                                               ` Alan Stern
2009-06-12  8:15                                         ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-12  2:16                                       ` Alan Stern
2009-06-11 16:05                                 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-11 15:22                               ` Alan Stern
2009-06-11 15:06                             ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-11 19:43                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-11 19:43                             ` [patch update] Re: [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-12 14:25                               ` [patch update] " Alan Stern
2009-06-12 14:25                               ` [patch update] Re: [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2009-06-10 23:42                       ` [patch update] " Alan Stern
2009-06-11  5:18                   ` [patch update] Re: [linux-pm] " Magnus Damm
2009-06-11  5:18                     ` Magnus Damm
2009-06-11  9:08                     ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-12  3:13                       ` [patch update] " Magnus Damm
2009-06-12  3:13                         ` [patch update] Re: [linux-pm] " Magnus Damm
2009-06-12  8:11                         ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-12 10:54                           ` [patch update] " Magnus Damm
2009-06-12 10:54                           ` [patch update] Re: [linux-pm] " Magnus Damm
2009-06-12 10:54                             ` Magnus Damm
2009-06-12  8:11                         ` [patch update] " Oliver Neukum
2009-06-11  9:08                     ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-11  5:18                   ` Magnus Damm
2009-06-10 20:48                 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2009-06-10 20:48                   ` Alan Stern
2009-06-10 21:15                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-10 21:15                   ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-10 20:48                 ` Alan Stern
2009-06-09 22:57               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-09  2:49             ` Alan Stern
2009-06-09  7:31             ` [linux-pm] " Oliver Neukum
2009-06-09  7:31               ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-09 23:02               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-09 23:02               ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-09  7:31             ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-08 21:31           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-08  6:54     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-08  6:54     ` Run-time PM idea (was: Re: [linux-pm] " Ingo Molnar
2009-06-08 11:30       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-08 13:05         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-08 13:11           ` Matthew Garrett
2009-06-08 13:22             ` Run-time PM idea (was: " Ingo Molnar
2009-06-08 13:22             ` Run-time PM idea (was: Re: [linux-pm] " Ingo Molnar
2009-06-08 13:32               ` Matthew Garrett
2009-06-08 13:46                 ` Run-time PM idea (was: " Ingo Molnar
2009-06-08 13:46                 ` Run-time PM idea (was: Re: [linux-pm] " Ingo Molnar
2009-06-08 13:54                   ` Run-time PM idea (was: " Matthew Garrett
2009-06-08 13:54                   ` Run-time PM idea (was: Re: [linux-pm] " Matthew Garrett
2009-06-08 14:24                     ` Run-time PM idea (was: " Ingo Molnar
2009-06-08 14:24                     ` Run-time PM idea (was: Re: [linux-pm] " Ingo Molnar
2009-06-08 14:35                       ` Run-time PM idea (was: " Matthew Garrett
2009-06-08 14:35                         ` Run-time PM idea (was: Re: [linux-pm] " Matthew Garrett
2009-06-08 14:44                         ` Run-time PM idea (was: " Ingo Molnar
2009-06-08 14:44                         ` Run-time PM idea (was: Re: [linux-pm] " Ingo Molnar
2009-06-08 14:51                           ` Matthew Garrett
2009-06-24 15:03                             ` Run-time PM idea (was: " Pavel Machek
2009-06-24 15:03                               ` Run-time PM idea (was: Re: [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2009-06-08 14:51                           ` Run-time PM idea (was: " Matthew Garrett
2009-06-19  1:50                         ` Robert Hancock
2009-06-19  1:50                         ` Robert Hancock
2009-06-08 13:58                   ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-08 13:58                   ` Run-time PM idea (was: Re: [linux-pm] " Oliver Neukum
2009-06-08 13:58                     ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-08 13:32               ` Run-time PM idea (was: " Matthew Garrett
2009-06-08 13:39               ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-08 13:39               ` Run-time PM idea (was: Re: [linux-pm] " Oliver Neukum
2009-06-08 13:44                 ` Run-time PM idea (was: " Matthew Garrett
2009-06-08 13:44                 ` Run-time PM idea (was: Re: [linux-pm] " Matthew Garrett
2009-06-08 14:21                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-08 14:30                   ` Matthew Garrett
2009-06-08 15:06                     ` Run-time PM idea (was: " Ingo Molnar
2009-06-08 15:06                     ` Run-time PM idea (was: Re: [linux-pm] " Ingo Molnar
2009-06-08 15:11                       ` Matthew Garrett
2009-06-08 15:11                       ` Run-time PM idea (was: " Matthew Garrett
2009-06-08 16:29                       ` Ray Lee
2009-06-08 16:29                       ` Run-time PM idea (was: Re: [linux-pm] " Ray Lee
2009-06-08 16:29                         ` Ray Lee
2009-06-08 14:30                   ` Run-time PM idea (was: " Matthew Garrett
2009-06-09 22:44                   ` Jiri Kosina
2009-06-09 22:44                   ` Run-time PM idea (was: Re: [linux-pm] " Jiri Kosina
2009-06-08 14:21                 ` Run-time PM idea (was: " Ingo Molnar
2009-06-08 13:11           ` Matthew Garrett
2009-06-08 13:05         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-08 11:30       ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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