From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753772AbZHaSQk (ORCPT ); Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:16:40 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752762AbZHaSQi (ORCPT ); Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:16:38 -0400 Received: from clegg.madduck.net ([193.242.105.96]:52350 "EHLO clegg.madduck.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751365AbZHaSQg (ORCPT ); Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:16:36 -0400 X-Greylist: delayed 468 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:16:35 EDT Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:07:46 +0200 From: martin f krafft To: Jesse Brandeburg Cc: Theodore Tso , Pavel Machek , NeilBrown , Ric Wheeler , Rob Landley , Florian Weimer , Goswin von Brederlow , kernel list , Andrew Morton , mtk.manpages@gmail.com, rdunlap@xenotime.net, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, corbet@lwn.net Subject: Re: raid is dangerous but that's secret (was Re: [patch] ext2/3: document conditions when reliable operation is possible) Message-ID: <20090831180746.GA32110@piper.oerlikon.madduck.net> Mail-Followup-To: Jesse Brandeburg , Theodore Tso , Pavel Machek , NeilBrown , Ric Wheeler , Rob Landley , Florian Weimer , Goswin von Brederlow , kernel list , Andrew Morton , mtk.manpages@gmail.com, rdunlap@xenotime.net, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, corbet@lwn.net References: <4A947682.2010204@redhat.com> <200908262253.17886.rob@landley.net> <4A967175.5070700@redhat.com> <20090827221319.GA1601@ucw.cz> <4A9733C1.2070904@redhat.com> <20090828064449.GA27528@elf.ucw.cz> <20090828120854.GA8153@mit.edu> <20090830075135.GA1874@ucw.cz> <20090830152023.GB23828@mit.edu> <4807377b0908311049id9a2167r937bc8447c2b3546@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-ripemd160; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4807377b0908311049id9a2167r937bc8447c2b3546@mail.gmail.com> X-Motto: Keep the good times rollin' X-OS: Debian GNU/Linux squeeze/sid kernel 2.6.31-rc3-amd64 x86_64 X-Subliminal-Message: debian/rules! Organization: The Debian project User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable also sprach Jesse Brandeburg [2009.08.31.1949 = +0200]: > In the case of a degraded array, could the kernel be more > proactive (or maybe even mdadm) and have the filesystem remount > itself withOUT journalling enabled? =A0This seems on the surface to > be possible, but I don't know the internal particulars that might > prevent/allow it. Why would I want to disable the filesystem journal in that case? --=20 .''`. martin f. krafft Related projects: : :' : proud Debian developer http://debiansystem.info `. `'` http://people.debian.org/~madduck http://vcs-pkg.org `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing systems =20 "i can stand brute force, but brute reason is quite unbearable. there is something unfair about its use. it is hitting below the intellect." -- oscar wilde --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="digital_signature_gpg.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/) Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEAREDAAYFAkqcEXEACgkQIgvIgzMMSnWmoQCggF5B5eXZnpgB+Gl3BwXUtEaU DJEAoL8ml704eMQojLX4Pepo6IajlrUV =VeIZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF--