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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Prasad <prasad@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>, Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@gmail.com>,
	Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>,
	Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/6] hw-breakpoints: Arbitrate access to pmu following registers constraints
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:54:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091112155413.GE5237@nowhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1257713781.13611.284.camel@pasglop>

On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 07:56:21AM +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-11-05 at 21:58 +1100, Paul Mackerras wrote:
> > Frederic Weisbecker writes:
> > 
> > > Allow or refuse to build a counter using the breakpoints pmu following
> > > given constraints.
> > 
> > As far as I can see, you assume each CPU has HBP_NUM breakpoint
> > registers which are all interchangeable and can all be used either for
> > data breakpoints or instruction breakpoints.  Is that accurate?
> > 
> > If so, we'll need to extend it a bit for Power since we have some CPUs
> > that have one data breakpoint register and one instruction breakpoint
> > register.  In general on powerpc the instruction and data breakpoint
> > facilities are separate, i.e. we have no registers that can be used
> > for either.
> 
> Additionally, we have more fancy facilities that I don't see exposed at
> all through this interface (we are building an ad-hoc ptrace based
> interface today so that gdb can make use of them) and we have one guy
> with crazy constraints that we don't know yet how to deal with:
> 
> Among others features:
> 
>  - Pairing of two data or instruction breakpoints to create a ranges
> breakpoint
>  - Data value compare option
>  - Instruction value compare option



Yeah. The current generic interface is a draft. I'll try to write
something generic enough to fit in every archs needs.
This is needed before we expose its perf interface to userpace
anyway.

 
> And now the crazy constraints:
> 
>  - On one embedded core at least we have a case where the core has 4
> threads, but the data (4) and instruction (2) breakpoint registers are
> shared. The 'enable' bits are split so a given data breakpoint can be
> enabled only on some HW threads but that's about it.
> 
> I'm not sure if there's a realistic way to handle the later constraint
> though other than just not allowing use of the HW breakpoint function on
> those cores at all.
> 
> Ben.


Yeah this latter one is tricky. Not sure how to handle it either.
How are these hw-threads considered by the kernel core? As different
cpu?


  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-12 15:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-03 19:11 [GIT PULL v4] hw-breakpoints: Rewrite on top of perf events v4 Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-03 19:11 ` [PATCH 1/6] perf/core: Provide a kernel-internal interface to get to performance counters Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-03 19:11 ` [PATCH 2/6] x86/hw-breakpoints: Actually flush thread breakpoints in flush_thread() Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-03 19:11 ` [PATCH 3/6] perf/core: Add a callback to perf events Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-03 19:11 ` [PATCH 4/6] hw-breakpoints: Rewrite the hw-breakpoints layer on top of " Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-03 19:58   ` Jan Kiszka
2009-11-03 20:15     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-03 20:22       ` Jan Kiszka
2009-11-03 20:29         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-03 20:39           ` Jan Kiszka
2009-11-03 20:45             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-04 23:59   ` Paul Mackerras
2009-11-05  6:00     ` K.Prasad
2009-11-05 11:00       ` Paul Mackerras
2009-11-05 11:09     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-07 10:03       ` Paul Mackerras
2009-11-07 19:52         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-05 11:03   ` Paul Mackerras
2009-11-05 11:11     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-05 15:34   ` K.Prasad
2009-11-05 21:06     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-08 17:32       ` K.Prasad
2009-11-12 15:42         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-03 19:11 ` [PATCH 5/6] hw-breakpoints: Arbitrate access to pmu following registers constraints Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-05 10:58   ` Paul Mackerras
2009-11-05 11:24     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-08 20:56     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-12 15:54       ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2009-11-12 20:00         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-14 13:34           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-03 19:11 ` [PATCH 6/6] ksym_tracer: Remove KSYM_SELFTEST_ENTRY Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-05 14:13 ` [GIT PULL v4] hw-breakpoints: Rewrite on top of perf events v4 K.Prasad
2009-11-05 20:30   ` Frederic Weisbecker
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-10-26  8:17 [PATCH 4/6] hw-breakpoints: Rewrite the hw-breakpoints layer on top of perf events Jan Kiszka
2009-11-01 21:09 ` [PATCH 5/6] hw-breakpoints: Arbitrate access to pmu following registers constraints Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-24 14:16 [GIT PULL v2] hw-breakpoints: Rewrite on top of perf events Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-24 14:16 ` [PATCH 5/6] hw-breakpoints: Arbitrate access to pmu following registers constraints Frederic Weisbecker

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