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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Juan Quintela <quintela@trasno.org>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: Live migration protocol, device features, ABIs and   other beasts
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:32:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091123143242.GO2999@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3r5rpwcww.fsf@neno.neno>

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 03:09:35PM +0100, Juan Quintela wrote:
> Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 01:25:32PM +0100, Juan Quintela wrote:
> >> Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> > On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 08:17:46PM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> 
> > Yes, I proposed to send device state in multiple formats specifically to
> > prevent negotiation step, but may be proper negotiation is not so
> > bad/complex after all.
> 
> Advantages of proper negotation is that target can told you "no".  It
> does'nt matter the number of formats that you send, if the target don't
> understand them, it is not going to work.
> 
The only difference is when it will be known that migration is not
possible: before event attempting it or during migration.

> >> My problem implementing optional features/sections/... is not the
> >> savevm/VMState bits.  At the end, implementing that is easy.  What is
> >> more dificult is once that a device have 5 features, what are the valid
> >> combinations.  i.e. if you have pci and msix features, msix requires
> >> pci.  In this case, the dependency is trivial, but in others that
> >> hasen't to be so obvious.
> > It doesn't matter what device support and how it is configured. This can
> > be handled by each device separately. i.e if destination detects that
> > source had MSIX enabled for the device but destination hasn't it will
> > signal an error.
> 
> And guess what, with current code migration is going to "suceed" on the
> source host and fail on the target host.
Then current code is buggy. It should be possible to abort migration in
the middle if device can't understand the data it received.

--
			Gleb.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-11-23 14:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-22 15:03 [Qemu-devel] Live migration protocol, device features, ABIs and other beasts Dor Laor
2009-11-22 15:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-22 20:22   ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-11-23  2:17     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23  8:18       ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-11-23 13:04         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23  8:26       ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-23  9:29         ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-11-23  9:31           ` Gleb Natapov
     [not found]             ` <m3einp4e7c.fsf@neno.neno>
2009-11-23 12:37               ` Gleb Natapov
     [not found]         ` <m3iqd14edf.fsf@neno.neno>
2009-11-23 12:36           ` Gleb Natapov
     [not found]             ` <m3r5rpwcww.fsf@neno.neno>
2009-11-23 14:32               ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2009-11-23 14:51                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 14:53                   ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-23 15:05                     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 15:22                       ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-23 15:30                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-11-23 15:32                         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 15:49                           ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-23 16:09                             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 16:15                               ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-23 16:19                                 ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]                   ` <m33a45s009.fsf@neno.neno>
2009-11-23 16:05                     ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-23 16:10                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-24 13:28             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-23 13:01           ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]             ` <m3vdh1wd0n.fsf@neno.neno>
2009-11-23 14:49               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 15:21                 ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-11-23 16:16                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 17:08                     ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-11-23 18:28                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 19:24                         ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-11-23 19:49                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 21:21                             ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-11-24 11:00                         ` Dor Laor
     [not found]                 ` <m3y6lxqkpv.fsf@neno.neno>
2009-11-23 16:44                   ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]                     ` <m3zl6db11z.fsf@neno.neno>
2009-11-23 18:44                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 20:24                     ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-11-24 13:39                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-23 13:51       ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-11-23 14:21         ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-11-23 15:00           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 15:37             ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-11-23 15:02           ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-11-23 15:12             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-24 14:26               ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-23 14:53         ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-11-24 14:28           ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-24 14:33             ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-11-24 16:05               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                 ` <m3skc2r66t.fsf@neno.neno>
2009-11-25 16:28                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-24 13:17       ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-24 13:35         ` Paul Brook
2009-11-24 13:49           ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-24 13:59             ` [Qemu-devel] " Paul Brook
2009-11-24 14:21               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-24 17:06                 ` Blue Swirl
2009-11-24 17:08                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-24 17:43                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-11-24 18:51                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-24 18:56                         ` Blue Swirl
2009-11-24 19:24                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-24 18:57                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-11-24 19:29                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-24 20:01                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]             ` <m3my2ct2qe.fsf@neno.neno>
2009-11-24 17:41               ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-11-24 13:21   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-24 13:45     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-24 13:55       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-23 12:15 ` Juan Quintela
2009-11-23 13:09   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 14:13     ` Juan Quintela
2009-11-24 14:05       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-24 14:20         ` Juan Quintela
2009-11-24 14:35           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-25 13:42             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-25 13:42               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-25 14:10                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-25 14:09                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-25 14:52                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-26 18:03                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-11-25 13:36         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-25 13:40           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-25 13:59             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-25 14:03               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-25 14:53                 ` Juan Quintela
2009-11-25 15:01                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-24 10:39   ` Dor Laor
2009-11-24 14:01     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-24 14:21       ` Juan Quintela
2009-11-24 14:38         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-24 16:05         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-25  9:30           ` Juan Quintela
2009-11-25  9:32             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-25 13:36               ` Juan Quintela
2009-11-24 13:59   ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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