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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Daniel Borkmann <danborkmann@googlemail.com>
Cc: "Bartłomiej Zimoń" <uzi18@o2.pl>,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, awalls@radix.net
Subject: Re: [suspend/resume] Re: userspace notification from module
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 20:45:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201001042045.44372.rjw__1228.68075636706$1262634376$gmane$org@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B41E318.4050809@gmail.com>

On Monday 04 January 2010, Daniel Borkmann wrote:
> Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Monday 04 January 2010, Bartłomiej Zimoń wrote:
> >> And what do You think about sending extra signals to processes?
> > 
> > I don't see a problem with this in principle, although I don't think signals
> > are very suitable for this particular purpose, because you need two-way
> > communication between the power manager and the processes it's going to
> > notify (because it has to wait for the processes to finish their preparations
> > and to tell it that they are ready).
> 
> Again, just to abandon some thoughts... do you really need that "two-way
> communication"? I mean if the kernel delivers that specific signal to
> the process/task_struct [do_signal():handle_signal()] it has to save the
> original execution context that will later on be restored after the
> non-default signal handling function returns. This is our ACK /
> notification for the successful return of the programs "suspend
> handler". The kernel module (if such exists) could be notified about
> that for instance by a simple notifier hook within kernelspace. I mean
> if I see this right, the "two-way" is just for the ACK isn't it?

_If_ the kernel sends the signals, which is not I think should be done.

Please keep that in the user space.  Really.

I don't see _any_ good reason for putting such things into the kernel.

Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-04 19:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 121+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-02 13:29 userspace notification from module Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-02 14:04 ` Daniel Borkmann
2010-01-02 14:27   ` [suspend/resume] " Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-02 15:11     ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]     ` <6f52f5b81001020713j5435cfadr1143806a9026adc2@mail.gmail.com>
2010-01-02 15:15       ` Daniel Borkmann
2010-01-02 15:40         ` Andy Walls
2010-01-02 15:56           ` Daniel Borkmann
2010-01-02 18:26             ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-02 21:01               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                 ` <7cf4f51f.5fc2a5cd.4b3fc3ad.c849c@o2.pl>
2010-01-02 23:29                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-02 23:29                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-03  1:03                     ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-03  9:30                       ` Daniel Borkmann
2010-01-03  9:30                       ` Daniel Borkmann
2010-01-03 10:06                         ` Daniel Borkmann
2010-01-03 10:06                         ` Daniel Borkmann
2010-01-03 11:01                           ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-03 21:49                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-03 21:49                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-04 13:38                               ` Stefan Seyfried
2010-01-04 13:38                               ` Stefan Seyfried
2010-01-03 21:33                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-03 21:33                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-03 21:29                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-03 21:29                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-03 22:53                         ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-03 23:30                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-03 23:30                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-03 23:35                             ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-03 23:45                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-03 23:45                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-04  0:51                                 ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-04  0:51                                 ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-04  1:06                                   ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-04 19:43                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-05  9:07                                     ` [linux-pm] " Anders Eriksson
2010-01-05 21:02                                       ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-05 21:23                                         ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-05 22:12                                           ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-05 22:12                                           ` [linux-pm] " Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-05 23:03                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-05 23:03                                             ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-05 23:37                                               ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-06 14:35                                                 ` [linux-pm] " Anders Eriksson
2010-01-06 20:37                                                   ` [linux-pm] [suspend/resume] Re: userspace notific ation " Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-06 20:49                                                     ` Roland Dreier
2010-01-06 20:56                                                       ` Roland Dreier
2010-01-06 20:56                                                       ` Roland Dreier
2010-01-06 20:49                                                     ` Roland Dreier
2010-01-06 20:37                                                   ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-15 20:02                                                   ` [suspend/resume] Re: userspace notification " Pavel Machek
2010-01-15 20:02                                                   ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2010-01-06 14:35                                                 ` Anders Eriksson
2010-01-05 21:23                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-05 21:26                                       ` [linux-pm] " Stefan Seyfried
2010-01-05 22:22                                         ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-05 23:05                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-05 23:05                                           ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-06  0:43                                             ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-06 10:10                                           ` Stefan Seyfried
2010-01-05 21:26                                       ` Stefan Seyfried
2010-01-05  9:07                                     ` Anders Eriksson
2010-01-04 19:43                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-04 12:46                                 ` Daniel Borkmann
2010-01-04 19:45                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2010-01-04 19:45                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-04 12:46                                 ` Daniel Borkmann
2010-01-03 23:35                             ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-03 17:20                     ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-03 17:20                     ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-03 21:50                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-03 21:50                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-09 10:32                 ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-09 13:40                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-15 20:03                     ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-15 20:03                       ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-15 22:14                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-15 22:14                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-16  3:00                         ` Eric Miao
2010-01-16  3:00                           ` Eric Miao
2010-01-16 17:00                           ` Stanislav Brabec
2010-01-16 17:00                             ` Stanislav Brabec
2010-01-16 18:12                             ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 18:12                               ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:05                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-16 22:05                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-16 22:19                                 ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:19                                   ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:25                                   ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:25                                     ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:31                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-16 22:31                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-16 22:26                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-16 22:26                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-17 13:07                                     ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-17 13:07                                       ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-17 13:26                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-01-17 13:26                                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-01-19  5:15                                         ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-19  5:15                                           ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:32                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-01-16 22:32                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-01-16 18:12                           ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 18:12                             ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 18:12                         ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 18:12                           ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:07                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-16 22:07                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-16 22:14                             ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:14                               ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:21                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-16 22:21                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-02 21:20               ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-02 14:31   ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-02 22:34 Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-03  8:31 Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-03 11:06 Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-03 23:17 Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-03 23:17 Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-06  1:05 [linux-pm] " Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-06 22:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-06  1:05 Bartłomiej Zimoń

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