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On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 06:19:04PM +0900, Paul Mundt wrote:
> Implementing a virtualized DRM/KMS driver would at least get you the
> framebuffer interface more or less for free, while allowing you to deal
> with the userspace side of things incrementally (ie, running a dummy xorg
> on top of the virtualized fbdev until the DRI side catches up). It would
> also enable you to focus on the 2D and 3D parts independently.

Guys, have a look at Gallium.  In many ways it's a pile of crap, but
at least it's a pile of crap designed by vmware for *exactly* your
problem space.

  OG.