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From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Vincent Hanquez <tab@snarc.org>
Cc: "libvir-list@redhat.com" <libvir-list@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
	Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] Supporting hypervisor specific APIs in libvirt
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 15:07:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100325150720.GH10705@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100325145652.GA25506@snarc.org>

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 02:56:52PM +0000, Vincent Hanquez wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 01:59:22PM +0000, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> > > From my point of view, i wouldn't want to write a high level management 
> > > toolstack in C, specially
> > > since the API is well defined JSON which is easily available in all high 
> > > level language out there.
> > 
> > It was pretty straightforward for libvirt to talk to the JSON protocol
> > from C using the YAJL  library, so I don't think it is all that much of 
> > a barrier for low level languages like C either.
> 
> note, that it's not the talking JSON part that's difficult to do in C (it's
> just midly annoying compare to a highlevel language), but all the other part of
> a toolstack. Since there's no performance requirements, writing in C is just a
> bit of a waste ot time, but that's up to the developpers to choose the tools he
> wants, even if it's not the most appropriate one ;)
> 
> > If we want to make life easy for app/library developers working against QEMU,
> > then the far more important aspect is to guarentee stability of all the QEMU
> > interfaces since that is where all the serious pain occurs over time.
> 
> if you're talking about the QMP interface then I agree with you. This need to
> be back/forward compatible as much as possible and stable.
> 
> the other interface (i.e. the user monitor) has no business beeing
> backward-compatible though, since it should never be used to talk a RPC.

I agree apps shouldn't use it for RPC, but admins using the interactive user 
monitor are just as deserving of stable commands & args. 

Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-25 15:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-22 19:25 [Qemu-devel] Supporting hypervisor specific APIs in libvirt Anthony Liguori
2010-03-22 20:10 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-22 21:33   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-22 21:53     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23  8:54       ` Jes Sorensen
2010-03-23 10:25         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-23 10:31           ` Jes Sorensen
2010-03-23 10:58             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-22 23:36     ` Cole Robinson
2010-03-22 21:49   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23  7:35     ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-23 23:25       ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24  0:55         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 10:05           ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-24 12:25             ` Paul Brook
2010-03-24 12:48               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25  2:43                 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-23 11:33     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-24 10:23     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-22 20:25 ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-23 10:06 ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-03-23 10:41   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-23 10:50     ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-23 11:08       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-23 12:19         ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-23 23:13     ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24  7:59       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-24 13:52         ` Cole Robinson
2010-03-24 14:00           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-23 23:19   ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24  2:22   ` Andi Kleen
2010-03-24  8:49     ` Juan Quintela
     [not found] ` <20100323145105.GV16253@redhat.com>
2010-03-23 15:05   ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] " Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 15:57     ` Paul Brook
2010-03-23 16:06       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 18:00         ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 18:23           ` [libvirt] [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-24  1:05             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24  4:48             ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 19:28           ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] " Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 23:09             ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24  5:17           ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 10:36             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-24 10:42               ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:23                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 12:29                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:32                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 12:33                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25  0:28                         ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24 16:42                 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-24 19:49                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 20:12                     ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-24 20:32                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 20:54                         ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-24 21:33                           ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-25  7:49                             ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-24 21:25                         ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-24 21:40                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25  8:26                             ` Vincent Hanquez
2010-03-25  8:49                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 12:33                               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 12:37                                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 13:44                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 13:48                                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 13:57                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 14:09                                         ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-25 15:59                                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-26  2:11                                             ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-25 14:21                                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 14:22                                         ` Vincent Hanquez
2010-03-25 16:50                                     ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-25 17:40                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-26  7:37                                         ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-26  9:26                                           ` [libvirt] [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2010-03-26  9:51                                           ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-26 12:53                                             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-26 13:53                                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 13:37                                 ` Gildas Le Nadan
2010-03-25 13:59                               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-25 14:56                                 ` Vincent Hanquez
2010-03-25 15:07                                   ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2010-03-25 15:14                                     ` Vincent Hanquez
2010-03-25 15:16                                       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-25 16:01                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 16:30                                           ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-26  2:18                                           ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-25 13:23                             ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-25 13:55                               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-26 12:52                                 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-25  6:37                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25  8:18                           ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-26 16:01                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:19             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 12:27               ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:30                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 12:32                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 18:07         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-23 19:24           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24  5:49             ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:30               ` Paul Brook
2010-03-24 12:34                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 13:03                   ` Paul Brook
2010-03-24 15:55                     ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-24 16:12                       ` Paul Brook
2010-03-23 23:22         ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-23 17:57 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 19:31   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24  4:53     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-26  2:31       ` Jamie Lokier

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