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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>
Cc: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	qemu list <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 10/15] virtio-serial: Add QMP events for failed port/device add
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 16:01:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100328150126.GG3417@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100326145728.GH7039@amit-x200.redhat.com>

Amit Shah wrote:
> > Without this specific thing, which is an indicator that guest has lost
> > state outside its control, the guest<->host communication is
> > unreliable (even for things like "cut and paste"), so every app that
> > cares has to implement a packet framing protocol with no binary data
> > (to reserve an escaping byte), or with CRCs like
> > PPP-over-virtio-serial, which is complicated and silly imho.  If it
> > were a real serial port, not emulated, that's the sort of thing apps
> > would actually do (or use timeouts, which are more dubious in
> > emulator-land).  But I hope we're not that sadistic :-)
> 
> I agree. So: ports have in-qemu users, they get guest_open /
> guest_close callbacks and get data which they can pass on to external
> apps. Looks like we're fine there?

Provided the guest_open / guest_close callbacks are synchronous with
the data - so that data sent/received following guest_open exactly
matches what the guest sends/receives from its beginning, that
internal interface looks fine to me.

We can tidy up the chardev later as needed :-)

-- Jamie

> > *Inband* open/close indication aren't 100% guarantees of reliability,
> > but I think they raise it to the point where an app can usefully count
> > on it.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-28 15:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-24 14:49 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/15] v3: virtio-serial-bus fixes, new abi for port discovery Amit Shah
2010-03-24 14:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/15] virtio-serial: save/load: Ensure target has enough ports Amit Shah
2010-03-24 14:49   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/15] virtio-serial: save/load: Ensure nr_ports on src and dest are same Amit Shah
2010-03-24 14:49     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/15] virtio-serial: save/load: Ensure we have hot-plugged ports instantiated Amit Shah
2010-03-24 14:49       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/15] virtio-serial: save/load: Send target host connection status if different Amit Shah
2010-03-24 14:49         ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/15] virtio-serial: Use control messages to notify guest of new ports Amit Shah
2010-03-24 14:49           ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/15] virtio-serial: whitespace: match surrounding code Amit Shah
2010-03-24 14:49             ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/15] virtio-serial: Remove redundant check for 0-sized write request Amit Shah
2010-03-24 14:49               ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/15] virtio-serial: Update copyright year to 2010 Amit Shah
2010-03-24 14:49                 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/15] virtio-serial: Propagate errors in initialising ports / devices in guest Amit Shah
2010-03-24 14:49                   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/15] virtio-serial: Add QMP events for failed port/device add Amit Shah
2010-03-24 14:49                     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/15] virtio-serial: Send out guest data to ports only if port is opened Amit Shah
2010-03-24 14:49                       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/15] iov: Introduce a new file for helpers around iovs, add iov_from_buf() Amit Shah
2010-03-24 14:49                         ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/15] iov: Add iov_to_buf and iov_size helpers Amit Shah
2010-03-24 14:49                           ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/15] virtio-serial: Handle scatter-gather buffers for control messages Amit Shah
2010-03-24 14:49                             ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/15] virtio-serial: Handle scatter/gather input from the guest Amit Shah
2010-03-30 13:44                             ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 14/15] virtio-serial: Handle scatter-gather buffers for control messages Juan Quintela
2010-03-30 13:47                               ` Amit Shah
2010-03-24 20:34                     ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 10/15] virtio-serial: Add QMP events for failed port/device add Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-25  3:47                       ` Amit Shah
2010-03-25 18:34                         ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-26  1:17                           ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-26  2:07                             ` Amit Shah
2010-03-26  4:07                               ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-26  4:56                                 ` Amit Shah
2010-03-26  5:23                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-26 13:49                                     ` Amit Shah
2010-03-26 14:44                                       ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-26 14:57                                         ` Amit Shah
2010-03-28 15:01                                           ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2010-03-26 13:05                                   ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-26 13:24                                     ` Amit Shah
2010-03-26  1:57                           ` Amit Shah
2010-03-25 18:55                     ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-26  2:16                       ` Amit Shah
2010-03-26 13:14                         ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-26 13:26                           ` Amit Shah
2010-03-26 14:29                             ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-26 14:43                               ` Amit Shah
2010-03-26 17:52                                 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-27  8:03                                   ` Amit Shah
2010-03-29 13:34                                     ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-26 16:51                               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-26  1:09     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/15] virtio-serial: save/load: Ensure nr_ports on src and dest are same Jamie Lokier
2010-03-26  2:03       ` Amit Shah
2010-03-26  4:08         ` Jamie Lokier

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