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From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
To: Daisuke Nishimura
	<nishimura-YQH0OdQVrdy45+QrQBaojngSJqDPrsil@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
	Andrea Righi <arighi-vWjgImWzx8FBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Trond Myklebust
	<trond.myklebust-41N18TsMXrtuMpJDpNschA@public.gmane.org>,
	Suleiman Souhlal
	<suleiman-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	Peter-FOgKQjlUJ6BQetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	balbir-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mmotm 1/5] memcg: disable irq at page cgroup lock
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 15:54:32 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100415155432.cf1861d9.kamezawa.hiroyu__41217.8840292201$1271314835$gmane$org@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100415152104.62593f37.nishimura-YQH0OdQVrdy45+QrQBaojngSJqDPrsil@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 15:21:04 +0900
Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura-YQH0OdQVrdy45+QrQBaojngSJqDPrsil@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > The only reason to use trylock in this case is to prevent deadlock
> > when running in a context that may have preempted or interrupted a
> > routine that already holds the bit locked.  In the
> > __remove_from_page_cache() irqs are disabled, but that does not imply
> > that a routine holding the spinlock has been preempted.  When the bit
> > is locked, preemption is disabled.  The only way to interrupt a holder
> > of the bit for an interrupt to occur (I/O, timer, etc).  So I think
> > that in_interrupt() is sufficient.  Am I missing something?
> > 
> IIUC, it's would be enough to prevent deadlock where one CPU tries to acquire
> the same page cgroup lock. But there is still some possibility where 2 CPUs
> can cause dead lock each other(please see the commit e767e056).
> IOW, my point is "don't call lock_page_cgroup() under mapping->tree_lock". 
> 
Hmm, maybe worth to try. We may be able to set/clear all DIRTY/WRITBACK bit
on page_cgroup without mapping->tree_lock.
In such case, of course, the page itself should be locked by lock_page().

But.Hmm..for example.

account_page_dirtied() is the best place to mark page_cgroup dirty. But
it's called under mapping->tree_lock.

Another thinking:
I wonder we may have to change our approach for dirty page acccounting.

Please see task_dirty_inc(). It's for per task dirty limiting.
And you'll notice soon that there is no task_dirty_dec().

Making use of lib/proportions.c's proportion calculation as task_dirty limit or
per-bdi dirty limit does is worth to be considered.
This is very simple and can be implemented without problems we have now.
(Need to think about algorithm itself, but it's used and works well.)
We'll never see complicated race condtions.

I know some guys wants "accurate" accounting, but I myself don't want too much.
Using propotions.c can offer us unified approach with per-task dirty accounting.
or per-bid dirty accouting.

If we do so, memcg will have interface like per-bdi dirty ratio (see below)
[kamezawa@bluextal kvm2]$ ls /sys/block/dm-0/bdi/
max_ratio  min_ratio  power  read_ahead_kb  subsystem  uevent

Maybe
  memory.min_ratio
  memory.max_ratio

And use this instead of  task_dirty_limit(current, pbdi_dirty); As

	if (mem_cgroup_dirty_ratio_support(current)) // return 0 if root cgroup
		memcg_dirty_limit(current, pbdi_dirty, xxxx?);
	else
		task_dirty_limit(current, pbdi_diryt)

To be honest, I don't want to increase caller of lock_page_cgroup() and don't
want to see complicated race conditions.

Thanks,
-Kame

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-04-15  6:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 206+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-14 23:26 [PATCH -mmotm 0/5] memcg: per cgroup dirty limit (v7) Andrea Righi
2010-03-14 23:26 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-14 23:26 ` [PATCH -mmotm 1/5] memcg: disable irq at page cgroup lock Andrea Righi
2010-03-14 23:26   ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-15  0:06   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-15  0:06     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-15 10:00     ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-15 10:00       ` Andrea Righi
     [not found]     ` <20100315090638.ee416d93.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-15 10:00       ` Andrea Righi
     [not found]   ` <1268609202-15581-2-git-send-email-arighi-vWjgImWzx8FBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-15  0:06     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-17  7:04     ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-17 11:58     ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-17  7:04   ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-17  7:04     ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-17 11:58   ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-17 11:58     ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]     ` <20100317115855.GS18054-SINUvgVNF2CyUtPGxGje5AC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-17 23:54       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-17 23:54     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-17 23:54       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]       ` <20100318085411.834e1e46.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-18  0:45         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-18  4:19         ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-18  0:45       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-18  0:45         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]         ` <20100318094519.cd1eed72.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-18  2:16           ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-03-18  2:16         ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-03-18  2:16           ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-03-18  2:58           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-18  2:58             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]           ` <20100318111653.92f899e6.nishimura-YQH0OdQVrdy45+QrQBaojngSJqDPrsil@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-18  2:58             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-18  5:12             ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-18  5:12           ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-18  5:12             ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-18  4:19       ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-18  4:19         ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-18  4:21         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-18  4:21           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-18  6:25           ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-18  6:25             ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]           ` <20100318132114.d5680e1e.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-18  6:25             ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-18  4:35         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-18  4:35           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-18 16:28           ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-18 16:28             ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]             ` <20100318162855.GG18054-SINUvgVNF2CyUtPGxGje5AC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-19  1:23               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-19  1:23             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-19  1:23               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-19  2:40               ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-19  2:40                 ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]                 ` <20100319024039.GH18054-SINUvgVNF2CyUtPGxGje5AC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-19  3:00                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-19  3:00                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-19  3:00                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]                   ` <xr93hbnepmj6.fsf@ninji.mtv.corp.google.com>
2010-04-14  6:55                     ` Greg Thelen
2010-04-14  6:55                       ` Greg Thelen
2010-04-14  9:29                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-14  9:29                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-14 14:04                         ` Vivek Goyal
2010-04-14 14:04                           ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                           ` <20100414140430.GB13535-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-14 19:31                             ` Greg Thelen
2010-04-15  0:14                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-14 19:31                           ` Greg Thelen
2010-04-14 19:31                             ` Greg Thelen
2010-04-15  0:14                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-15  0:14                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]                         ` <20100414182904.2f72a63d.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-14 14:04                           ` Vivek Goyal
2010-04-14 16:22                           ` Greg Thelen
2010-04-14 16:22                         ` Greg Thelen
2010-04-14 16:22                           ` Greg Thelen
2010-04-15  0:22                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-15  0:22                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]                           ` <p2k49b004811004140922v8b6c4c57j2dd435261ff2dd43-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-15  0:22                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-14 14:05                       ` Vivek Goyal
2010-04-14 14:05                         ` Vivek Goyal
2010-04-14 20:14                         ` Greg Thelen
2010-04-14 20:14                           ` Greg Thelen
     [not found]                           ` <xr9339yxyepc.fsf-Pk7ff2FLCuk9fRMx9H/SexPsWskHk0ljAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-15  2:40                             ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-04-15  2:40                           ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-04-15  2:40                             ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-04-15  4:48                             ` Greg Thelen
2010-04-15  4:48                               ` Greg Thelen
2010-04-15  6:21                               ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-04-15  6:21                                 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-04-15  6:38                                 ` Greg Thelen
2010-04-15  6:38                                   ` Greg Thelen
     [not found]                                 ` <20100415152104.62593f37.nishimura-YQH0OdQVrdy45+QrQBaojngSJqDPrsil@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-15  6:38                                   ` Greg Thelen
2010-04-15  6:54                                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2010-04-15  6:54                                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-15  6:54                                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-23 20:17                                   ` Greg Thelen
2010-04-23 20:17                                     ` Greg Thelen
2010-04-23 20:54                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-23 20:54                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-24 15:53                                       ` Greg Thelen
2010-04-24 15:53                                         ` Greg Thelen
2010-04-24 15:53                                       ` Greg Thelen
     [not found]                                     ` <xr93k4rxx6sd.fsf-Pk7ff2FLCuk9fRMx9H/SexPsWskHk0ljAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-23 20:54                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-23 20:57                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-23 21:19                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-24  2:19                                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-23 20:57                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-23 20:57                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-24  2:22                                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-24  2:22                                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-24  2:22                                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-23 21:19                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-23 21:19                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-24  2:19                                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-24  2:19                                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-23 20:17                                   ` Greg Thelen
     [not found]                               ` <g2u49b004811004142148i3db9fefaje1f20760426e0c7e-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-15  6:21                                 ` Daisuke Nishimura
     [not found]                             ` <20100415114022.ef01b704.nishimura-YQH0OdQVrdy45+QrQBaojngSJqDPrsil@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-15  4:48                               ` Greg Thelen
     [not found]                         ` <20100414140523.GC13535-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-14 20:14                           ` Greg Thelen
2010-04-14 14:44                       ` Balbir Singh
2010-04-14 14:44                         ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]                       ` <xr931veiplpr.fsf-Pk7ff2FLCuk9fRMx9H/SexPsWskHk0ljAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-14  9:29                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-14 14:05                         ` Vivek Goyal
2010-04-14 14:44                         ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]                   ` <xr93hbnepmj6.fsf-Pk7ff2FLCuk9fRMx9H/SexPsWskHk0ljAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-14  6:55                     ` Greg Thelen
     [not found]               ` <20100319102332.f1d81c8d.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-19  2:40                 ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]           ` <20100318133527.420b2f25.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-18 16:28             ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]         ` <20100318041944.GA18054-SINUvgVNF2CyUtPGxGje5AC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-18  4:21           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-18  4:35           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-14 23:26 ` [PATCH -mmotm 2/5] memcg: dirty memory documentation Andrea Righi
2010-03-14 23:26   ` Andrea Righi
     [not found]   ` <1268609202-15581-3-git-send-email-arighi-vWjgImWzx8FBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-16  7:41     ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-03-16  7:41   ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-03-16  7:41     ` Daisuke Nishimura
     [not found]     ` <20100316164121.024e35d8.nishimura-YQH0OdQVrdy45+QrQBaojngSJqDPrsil@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-17 17:48       ` Greg Thelen
2010-03-17 22:43       ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-17 17:48     ` Greg Thelen
2010-03-17 17:48       ` Greg Thelen
     [not found]       ` <49b004811003171048h5f27405oe6ea39a103bc4ee3-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-17 19:02         ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-17 19:02       ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-17 19:02         ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-17 22:43     ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-17 22:43       ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-14 23:26 ` [PATCH -mmotm 3/5] page_cgroup: introduce file cache flags Andrea Righi
2010-03-14 23:26   ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-14 23:26 ` [PATCH -mmotm 4/5] memcg: dirty pages accounting and limiting infrastructure Andrea Righi
2010-03-14 23:26   ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-15  2:26   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-15  2:26     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]   ` <1268609202-15581-5-git-send-email-arighi-vWjgImWzx8FBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-15  2:26     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-16  2:32     ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-03-18  6:48     ` Greg Thelen
2010-03-16  2:32   ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-03-16  2:32     ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-03-16 14:11     ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-16 14:11       ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-16 15:09       ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-03-16 15:09         ` Daisuke Nishimura
     [not found]       ` <20100316141150.GC9144-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-16 15:09         ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-03-17 22:37         ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-17 22:37       ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-17 22:37         ` Andrea Righi
     [not found]     ` <20100316113238.f7d74848.nishimura-YQH0OdQVrdy45+QrQBaojngSJqDPrsil@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-16 14:11       ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-17 22:52       ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-17 22:52     ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-17 22:52       ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-18  6:48   ` Greg Thelen
2010-03-18  6:48     ` Greg Thelen
2010-03-14 23:26 ` [PATCH -mmotm 5/5] memcg: dirty pages instrumentation Andrea Righi
2010-03-14 23:26   ` Andrea Righi
     [not found]   ` <1268609202-15581-6-git-send-email-arighi-vWjgImWzx8FBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-15  2:31     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-15  2:31   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-15  2:31     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-15  2:36 ` [PATCH -mmotm 0/5] memcg: per cgroup dirty limit (v7) KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-15  2:36   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-15 10:02   ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-15 10:02     ` Andrea Righi
     [not found]   ` <20100315113612.8411d92d.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-15 10:02     ` Andrea Righi
     [not found] ` <1268609202-15581-1-git-send-email-arighi-vWjgImWzx8FBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-14 23:26   ` [PATCH -mmotm 1/5] memcg: disable irq at page cgroup lock Andrea Righi
2010-03-14 23:26   ` [PATCH -mmotm 2/5] memcg: dirty memory documentation Andrea Righi
2010-03-14 23:26   ` [PATCH -mmotm 3/5] page_cgroup: introduce file cache flags Andrea Righi
2010-03-14 23:26   ` [PATCH -mmotm 4/5] memcg: dirty pages accounting and limiting infrastructure Andrea Righi
2010-03-14 23:26   ` [PATCH -mmotm 5/5] memcg: dirty pages instrumentation Andrea Righi
2010-03-15  2:36   ` [PATCH -mmotm 0/5] memcg: per cgroup dirty limit (v7) KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-15 17:12   ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-17  6:44   ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-15 17:12 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-15 17:12   ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]   ` <20100315171209.GI21127-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-15 17:19     ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-15 17:19   ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-15 17:19     ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-17 11:54     ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-17 11:54       ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-17 13:34       ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-17 13:34         ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-17 18:53         ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-17 18:53           ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-17 19:15           ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-17 19:15             ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]           ` <20100317185327.GV18054-SINUvgVNF2CyUtPGxGje5AC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-17 19:15             ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-17 19:17         ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-17 19:17           ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]           ` <20100317191743.GY18054-SINUvgVNF2CyUtPGxGje5AC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-17 19:48             ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-17 19:48           ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-17 19:48             ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]         ` <20100317133407.GA9198-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-17 18:53           ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-17 19:17           ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]       ` <20100317115427.GR18054-SINUvgVNF2CyUtPGxGje5AC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-17 13:34         ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]     ` <20100315171921.GJ21127-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-17 11:54       ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-17  6:44 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-17  6:44   ` Balbir Singh
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-03-09 23:00 [PATCH -mmotm 0/5] memcg: per cgroup dirty limit (v6) Andrea Righi
     [not found] ` <1268175636-4673-1-git-send-email-arighi-vWjgImWzx8FBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-09 23:00   ` [PATCH -mmotm 1/5] memcg: disable irq at page cgroup lock Andrea Righi
2010-03-09 23:00 ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-09 23:00   ` Andrea Righi

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