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From: Robert Richter <robert.richter@amd.com>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@infradead.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] perf: align raw sample data on 64-bit boundaries
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 11:31:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100519093100.GL21799@erda.amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100519073908.GE5704@nowhere>

On 19.05.10 03:39:10, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:

> > This changes the ABI and requires changes in the userland tools. For
> > tools/perf this is at a single location in event.c only. This could
> > also introduce some overhead on smaller architectures, but currently
> > this is only used on x86 or for transferring raw tracepoint
> > data.
> 
> 
> No this is used on any architectures that event have a minimal support for
> perf events.
> 
> I use tracepoint raw samples in sparc 64 for example (which has much more
> than the minimal support).

Isn't here the same alignment problem on archs there unsigned long is
64 bit? Also, most samples I found have a size of multiples of 8
bytes, so even on 32 bit archs there would be a padding of 4 bytes
somethere in the sample.

> I don't think we should do this. Ok it's true we've screwed up
> something there but breaking the ABI is going to make the things
> even worst I think.

I was not sure how hard an ABI breakage would be. I think the small
number of users of raw samples is manageable, but I understand if you
feel uncomfortable with it.

> I would feel better with a new PERF_SAMPLE_RAW_ALIGNED sample_type
> and schedule the deprecation of PERF_SAMPLE_RAW for later but keep
> it for some releases.

This could be an alternative. Though, it duplicates code paths and
introduces ugly sample type checks. Another alternative would be to
check the size value, if it is (n * sizeof(u64)) we could asume 64 bit
alignment. But maybe this makes things much worse.

-Robert

-- 
Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Operating System Research Center
email: robert.richter@amd.com


  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-19  9:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-13 20:23 [PATCH 00/12] perf: introduce model specific events and AMD IBS Robert Richter
2010-04-13 20:23 ` [PATCH 01/12] perf, x86: move perfctr init code to x86_setup_perfctr() Robert Richter
2010-05-07 18:42   ` [tip:perf/core] perf, x86: Move " tip-bot for Robert Richter
2010-04-13 20:23 ` [PATCH 02/12] perf, x86: moving x86_setup_perfctr() Robert Richter
2010-05-07 18:42   ` [tip:perf/core] perf, x86: Move x86_setup_perfctr() tip-bot for Robert Richter
2010-04-13 20:23 ` [PATCH 03/12] perf, x86: call x86_setup_perfctr() from .hw_config() Robert Richter
2010-05-07 18:42   ` [tip:perf/core] perf, x86: Call " tip-bot for Robert Richter
2010-04-13 20:23 ` [PATCH 04/12] perf: introduce flag for model specific events Robert Richter
2010-04-13 20:23 ` [PATCH 05/12] perf, x86: pass enable bit mask to __x86_pmu_enable_event() Robert Richter
2010-05-07 18:43   ` [tip:perf/core] perf, x86: Pass " tip-bot for Robert Richter
2010-04-13 20:23 ` [PATCH 06/12] perf, x86: use weight instead of cmask in for_each_event_constraint() Robert Richter
2010-05-07 18:43   ` [tip:perf/core] perf, x86: Use " tip-bot for Robert Richter
2010-04-13 20:23 ` [PATCH 07/12] perf, x86: introduce bit range for special pmu events Robert Richter
2010-04-13 20:23 ` [PATCH 08/12] perf, x86: modify some code to allow the introduction of ibs events Robert Richter
2010-04-13 20:23 ` [PATCH 09/12] perf, x86: implement IBS feature detection Robert Richter
2010-04-13 20:23 ` [PATCH 10/12] perf, x86: setup NMI handler for IBS Robert Richter
2010-04-15 12:57   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-15 13:11     ` Robert Richter
2010-04-19 16:04       ` Robert Richter
2010-04-13 20:23 ` [PATCH 11/12] perf, x86: implement AMD IBS event configuration Robert Richter
2010-04-19 13:46   ` Stephane Eranian
2010-04-20 10:31     ` Robert Richter
2010-04-20 16:05     ` Robert Richter
2010-04-21  8:47       ` Robert Richter
2010-04-21  9:02         ` Stephane Eranian
2010-04-21  9:21           ` Robert Richter
2010-04-21 10:54             ` Robert Richter
2010-04-21 11:37               ` Stephane Eranian
2010-04-21 16:58                 ` Robert Richter
2010-04-22 17:32                   ` Stephane Eranian
2010-05-11 13:57                 ` Robert Richter
2010-04-13 20:23 ` [PATCH 12/12] perf, x86: implement the ibs interrupt handler Robert Richter
2010-04-19 12:19   ` Stephane Eranian
2010-04-20 13:10     ` Robert Richter
2010-04-22 14:45     ` Robert Richter
2010-05-07 15:28     ` [PATCH] perf: fix raw sample size if no sampling data is attached Robert Richter
2010-05-07 15:41       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-07 19:48       ` Robert Richter
2010-05-18 15:12     ` [RFC PATCH] perf: align raw sample data on 64-bit boundaries Robert Richter
2010-05-19  7:39       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-05-19  9:31         ` Robert Richter [this message]
2010-05-24 21:25           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-05-28 17:35             ` Robert Richter
2010-04-13 20:45 ` [osrc-patches] [PATCH 00/12] perf: introduce model specific events and AMD IBS Robert Richter
2010-04-14 12:31   ` Robert Richter
2010-04-15  7:41   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-15  7:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-15 15:16   ` Robert Richter
2010-04-21 12:11     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-21 13:21       ` Stephane Eranian
2010-04-21 18:26         ` Robert Richter
2010-04-21 18:40           ` Stephane Eranian
2010-04-21 16:28       ` Robert Richter
2010-04-28 16:16 ` [osrc-patches] " Robert Richter
2010-05-04 14:18   ` Peter Zijlstra

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