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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: lsf10-pc@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [topic proposal] dealing with ->d_revalidate() right ways (automounting, atomic opens and the whole mess around that)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 03:19:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100609021940.GW31073@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)

	That's going to be the next big change of VFS architecture; bits
and pieces had been discussed on lists and in private mail, but it would
be really useful to sit down and discuss that face to face with everyone
involved.

	* ->follow_link() is abused for triggering submounts.
	* ->d_revalidate() is abused in many, _many_ ways, including
autofs, NFS "reval_dot" stuff, atomic opens, etc.  Moreover, it has nasty
interplay with crossing mountpoints.
	* NFS handling of atomic opens is near the point where we can
switch to methods that would get proper arguments directly, rather
than abusing ->lookup/->d_revalidate/whatnot.  Again, ->d_revalidate
and mountpoint crossing are stumbling blocks.  And NFS4 bits around
open are just plain scary...
	* NFSv4 has rather unpleasant stuff in submount handling - what
it does with ->mnt_devname doesn't bear describing in polite company and
it actually doesn't work right with mount --bind (moderately) and
mountinfo contents (completely).  Both issues are fixable and that gets
entangled into the aforementioned ball of barbed wire...

	Who might want to be there: nfsd/nfs/cifs/afs/autofs4 and general
VFS-interested folks.

             reply	other threads:[~2010-06-09  2:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-09  2:19 Al Viro [this message]
2010-06-09  2:29 ` [topic proposal] dealing with ->d_revalidate() right ways (automounting, atomic opens and the whole mess around that) Joel Becker
2010-06-14 14:40 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-06-21 20:54 ` Frank Mayhar

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