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From: mark gross <640e9920@gmail.com>
To: tytso@mit.edu, markgross@thegnar.org,
	"Alan Stern" <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	"Linux-pm mailing list" <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"Matthew Garrett" <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Dmitry Torokhov" <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	"Arve Hjønnevåg" <arve@android.com>, "Neil Brown" <neilb@suse.de>,
	"mark gross" <640e9920@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] PM: Avoid losing wakeup events during suspend
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 18:07:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100622010704.GA12795@gvim.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100621121058.GF6199@thunk.org>

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 08:10:58AM -0400, tytso@mit.edu wrote:
> So where are we at this point?

The patches are in James Bottomly's tree.
 
> Discussion had completely died down for a while, and it's picked up
> again, but it's not clear to me that we're any closer to reaching
> consensus.

I thought we (linux community and Android) where ok with the plist /
pm-qos implementation of the building blocks needed to implement the
suspend blocker feature on top of a pm-qos request class (I think the
name was "interactive")  pretty much the exact same symantecs as the
suspend blocker thing, just with pm-qos kernel api's.
 
> There's been one proposal that we simply merge in a set of no-op
> inline functions for suspend blockers, just so we can get let the
> drivers go in (assuming that Greg K-H believes this is still a
> problem), but with an automatical removal of N months (N to be
> decided, say 9 or 12 or 18 months).

I'd rather see the re-tooling of pmqos happen.

> 
> My concern is that if we do that, we will have simply kicked the ball
> down the road for N months.  Another approach is to simply merge in
> no-op functions and not leave any kind of deprecation schedule.
> That's sort of an implicit admission of the fact that we may not reach
> consensus on this issue.  Or we could simply ship the patches as-is to
> Linus after he gets back from vacation and ask him for a thumbs up or
> thumbs down vote, which might settle things once and for all.
> 
> How do we go forward from here?
> 
put the pm_qos -plist update into linux-next?

--mgross


  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-06-22  1:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 151+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-19 22:05 [RFC][PATCH] PM: Avoid losing wakeup events during suspend Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-20  5:52 ` mark gross
2010-06-20  5:52 ` mark gross
2010-06-20 12:49   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-20 23:13     ` mark gross
2010-06-20 23:13     ` mark gross
2010-06-20 12:49   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-20 16:28 ` Alan Stern
2010-06-20 16:28 ` Alan Stern
2010-06-20 21:50   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-21  2:23     ` Alan Stern
2010-06-21  2:23     ` Alan Stern
2010-06-21  5:32       ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-21  5:32       ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-21 15:23         ` Alan Stern
2010-06-21 20:38           ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-21 22:18             ` Alan Stern
2010-06-21 22:18             ` Alan Stern
2010-06-21 22:40               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-21 22:48                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-21 22:48                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-22  0:50                 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-22  0:50                 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-06-22 10:21                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-22 10:21                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-22 14:35                   ` Alan Stern
2010-06-22 15:35                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-22 19:55                       ` Alan Stern
2010-06-22 19:55                       ` Alan Stern
2010-06-22 20:58                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-22 20:58                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-22 19:59                       ` [update] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-24 14:16                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2010-06-24 14:16                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2010-06-24 14:45                           ` Alan Stern
2010-06-24 14:45                           ` Alan Stern
2010-06-24 14:48                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-24 15:21                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2010-06-24 15:21                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2010-06-24 14:48                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-22 19:59                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-22 20:34                         ` Alan Stern
2010-06-22 20:34                         ` Alan Stern
2010-06-22 21:41                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-23  2:12                             ` Alan Stern
2010-06-23  2:12                             ` Alan Stern
2010-06-23 10:09                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-23 10:09                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-23 15:21                                 ` Alan Stern
2010-06-23 15:21                                 ` Alan Stern
2010-06-23 22:17                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-23 22:17                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-24 13:13                                     ` [update 2] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-24 15:06                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-24 15:35                                         ` Alan Stern
2010-06-24 15:35                                         ` Alan Stern
2010-06-24 23:00                                           ` [update 3] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-24 23:00                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-25 14:42                                             ` Alan Stern
2010-06-25 14:42                                             ` Alan Stern
2010-06-25 20:33                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-25 20:33                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-24 15:06                                       ` [update 2] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-24 15:44                                       ` Alan Stern
2010-06-24 15:44                                       ` Alan Stern
2010-06-24 16:19                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-24 17:09                                           ` Alan Stern
2010-06-24 23:06                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-24 23:06                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-25 15:09                                               ` Alan Stern
2010-06-25 15:09                                               ` Alan Stern
2010-06-25 20:37                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-25 20:57                                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-06-25 20:57                                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-06-25 20:37                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-25  6:40                                             ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-25  6:40                                             ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-25 13:28                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-25 13:28                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-24 17:09                                           ` Alan Stern
2010-06-24 16:19                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-24 13:13                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-22 21:41                           ` [update] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-22 15:35                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-22 14:35                   ` Alan Stern
2010-06-22 23:00                   ` mark gross
2010-06-22 23:00                     ` mark gross
2010-06-21 22:40               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-21 20:38           ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-21 15:23         ` Alan Stern
2010-06-21 16:54         ` Alan Stern
2010-06-21 20:40           ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-21 20:40           ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-21 21:18           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-21 21:18           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-21 22:27             ` Alan Stern
2010-06-21 22:27             ` Alan Stern
2010-06-21 16:54         ` Alan Stern
2010-06-21  6:13       ` mark gross
2010-06-21  6:13       ` mark gross
2010-06-21 12:10         ` tytso
2010-06-21 12:10         ` tytso
2010-06-21 12:22           ` Alan Cox
2010-06-21 12:22             ` Alan Cox
2010-06-21 12:26             ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-21 12:26             ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-21 12:26             ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-21 13:42             ` tytso
2010-06-21 14:01               ` Alan Cox
2010-06-21 14:01                 ` Alan Cox
2010-06-21 13:42             ` tytso
2010-06-22  1:07           ` mark gross [this message]
2010-06-22  1:07           ` mark gross
2010-06-21 16:01         ` Alan Stern
2010-06-21 16:01         ` Alan Stern
2010-06-22  1:25           ` mark gross
2010-06-22  2:24             ` Alan Stern
2010-06-22  2:24             ` Alan Stern
2010-06-22  1:25           ` mark gross
2010-06-21 21:58       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-21 21:58       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-20 21:50   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-20 22:58   ` mark gross
2010-06-21  2:33     ` Alan Stern
2010-06-21  2:33     ` Alan Stern
2010-06-21  4:04       ` [linux-pm] " David Brownell
2010-06-21  4:04         ` David Brownell
2010-06-21  6:02         ` [linux-pm] " David Brownell
2010-06-21  6:02         ` David Brownell
2010-06-21 15:06         ` Alan Stern
2010-06-21 15:06         ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-06-21  5:55       ` mark gross
2010-06-21 12:39         ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-21 12:39         ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-21 15:57         ` Alan Stern
2010-06-21 15:57         ` Alan Stern
2010-06-22  1:58           ` mark gross
2010-06-22  2:46             ` Alan Stern
2010-06-22  2:46             ` Alan Stern
2010-06-22  9:24               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-22  9:24               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-22  6:18             ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-22  6:18             ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-22 23:22               ` mark gross
2010-06-22 23:22               ` mark gross
2010-06-22  9:29             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-22  9:29               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-22  1:58           ` mark gross
2010-06-21  5:55       ` mark gross
2010-06-20 22:58   ` mark gross
2010-06-19 22:05 Rafael J. Wysocki

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