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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/18] xfs: convert inode cache lookups to use RCU locking
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:17:48 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100914231748.GE15695@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100914162742.GA18185@infradead.org>

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:27:42PM -0400, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 08:56:04PM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > From: Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
> > 
> > With delayed logging greatly increasing the sustained
> > parallelism of inode operations, the inode cache locking is
> > showing significant read vs write contention when inode reclaim
> > runs at the same time as lookups. There is also a lot more write
> > lock acquistions than there are read locks (4:1 ratio) so the
> > read locking is not really buying us much in the way of
> > parallelism.
> 
> That's just for your parallel creates workload, isn't it?  If we'd
> get that bad hit rates on normal workloads something is pretty
> wrong with the inode cache.

I see it on the unlink workloads, as well as any use-once workload I
care to run (e.g. du, find, grep, xfsdump, xfs_fsr, etc) on a
fileystem with more inodes in it that can fit in the currently
available memory. When we have userspace memory pressure, the amount
of memory available for caching can be pretty low, so this is quite
a common situation.

> For a workload with 4 times as many writelocks just changing the
> rwlock to a spinlock should provide more benefits.  Did you test what
> effect this has on other workloads?

Not yet - I've run it through xfsqa on single CPU, 2p and 4p
machines for the past few days, but I haven't benchmarked it
comparitively on other workloads yet. The whole patchset needs
that....

> In addition to that I feel really uneasy about changes to the inode
> cache locking without really heavy NFS server testing - we just had too
> many issues in this area in the past.

Agreed, and that's something I need to test against.

> > To avoid the read vs write contention, change the cache to use RCU locking on
> > the read side. To avoid needing to RCU free every single inode, use the built
> > in slab RCU freeing mechanism. This requires us to be able to detect lookups of
> > freed inodes, so en??ure that ever freed inode has an inode number of zero and
> > the XFS_IRECLAIM flag set. We already check the XFS_IRECLAIM flag in cache hit
> > lookup path, but also add a check for a zero inode number as well.
> 
> How does this interact with slab poisoning?

mm/slab.c::kmem_cache_create():

        if (!(flags & SLAB_DESTROY_BY_RCU))
                flags |= SLAB_POISON;
#endif
        if (flags & SLAB_DESTROY_BY_RCU)
                BUG_ON(flags & SLAB_POISON);

and SLUB does an equivalent setup where OBJECT_POISON is not set if
SLAB_DESTROY_BY_RCU is set. So it effectively turns off slab
poisoning, but leaves all the other debug checks active.

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-14 23:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-14 10:55 [PATCH 0/18] xfs: metadata and buffer cache scalability improvements Dave Chinner
2010-09-14 10:56 ` [PATCH 01/18] xfs: single thread inode cache shrinking Dave Chinner
2010-09-14 18:48   ` Alex Elder
2010-09-14 22:48     ` Dave Chinner
2010-09-14 10:56 ` [PATCH 02/18] xfs: reduce the number of CIL lock round trips during commit Dave Chinner
2010-09-14 14:48   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-14 17:21   ` Alex Elder
2010-09-14 10:56 ` [PATCH 03/18] xfs: remove debug assert for per-ag reference counting Dave Chinner
2010-09-14 14:48   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-14 17:22   ` Alex Elder
2010-09-14 10:56 ` [PATCH 04/18] xfs: lockless per-ag lookups Dave Chinner
2010-09-14 12:35   ` Dave Chinner
2010-09-14 14:50   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-14 17:28   ` Alex Elder
2010-09-14 10:56 ` [PATCH 05/18] xfs: convert inode cache lookups to use RCU locking Dave Chinner
2010-09-14 16:27   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-14 23:17     ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2010-09-14 21:23   ` Alex Elder
2010-09-14 23:42     ` Dave Chinner
2010-09-14 10:56 ` [PATCH 06/18] xfs: convert pag_ici_lock to a spin lock Dave Chinner
2010-09-14 21:26   ` Alex Elder
2010-09-14 10:56 ` [PATCH 07/18] xfs: don't use vfs writeback for pure metadata modifications Dave Chinner
2010-09-14 14:54   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-15  0:14     ` Dave Chinner
2010-09-15  0:17       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-14 22:12   ` Alex Elder
2010-09-15  0:28     ` Dave Chinner
2010-11-08 10:47   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-14 10:56 ` [PATCH 08/18] xfs: rename xfs_buf_get_nodaddr to be more appropriate Dave Chinner
2010-09-14 14:56   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-14 22:14   ` Alex Elder
2010-09-14 10:56 ` [PATCH 09/18] xfs: introduced uncached buffer read primitve Dave Chinner
2010-09-14 14:56   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-14 22:16   ` Alex Elder
2010-09-14 10:56 ` [PATCH 10/18] xfs: store xfs_mount in the buftarg instead of in the xfs_buf Dave Chinner
2010-09-14 14:57   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-14 22:21   ` Alex Elder
2010-09-14 10:56 ` [PATCH 11/18] xfs: kill XBF_FS_MANAGED buffers Dave Chinner
2010-09-14 14:59   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-14 22:26   ` Alex Elder
2010-09-14 10:56 ` [PATCH 12/18] xfs: use unhashed buffers for size checks Dave Chinner
2010-09-14 15:00   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-14 22:29   ` Alex Elder
2010-09-14 10:56 ` [PATCH 13/18] xfs: remove buftarg hash for external devices Dave Chinner
2010-09-14 22:29   ` Alex Elder
2010-09-14 10:56 ` [PATCH 14/18] xfs: convert buffer cache hash to rbtree Dave Chinner
2010-09-14 16:29   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-15 17:46   ` Alex Elder
2010-09-14 10:56 ` [PATCH 15/18] xfs; pack xfs_buf structure more tightly Dave Chinner
2010-09-14 16:30   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-15 18:01   ` Alex Elder
2010-09-14 10:56 ` [PATCH 16/18] xfs: convert xfsbud shrinker to a per-buftarg shrinker Dave Chinner
2010-09-14 16:32   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-15 20:19   ` Alex Elder
2010-09-16  0:28     ` Dave Chinner
2010-09-14 10:56 ` [PATCH 17/18] xfs: add a lru to the XFS buffer cache Dave Chinner
2010-09-14 23:16   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-15  0:05     ` Dave Chinner
2010-09-15 21:28   ` Alex Elder
2010-09-14 10:56 ` [PATCH 18/18] xfs: stop using the page cache to back the " Dave Chinner
2010-09-14 23:20   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-15  0:06     ` Dave Chinner
2010-09-14 14:25 ` [PATCH 0/18] xfs: metadata and buffer cache scalability improvements Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-17 13:21 ` Alex Elder
2010-09-21  2:02   ` Dave Chinner
2010-09-21 16:23     ` Alex Elder
2010-09-21 22:34       ` Dave Chinner

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