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From: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
To: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
Cc: Chris Bagwell <chris@cnpbagwell.com>,
	Chase Douglas <chase.douglas@canonical.com>,
	linux-input@vger.kernel.org, xorg-devel@lists.x.org,
	Andy Whitcroft <apw@canonical.com>,
	Henrik Rydberg <rydberg@euromail.se>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer@who-t.net>,
	Duncan McGreggor <duncan.mcgreggor@canonical.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] Input: synaptics - remove touches over button click area
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:30:16 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101011173015.GB27304@core.coreip.homeip.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <s5h7hho3bau.wl%tiwai@suse.de>

On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 07:10:33PM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> At Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:24:04 -0500,
> Chris Bagwell wrote:
> > 
> > On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Chase Douglas
> > <chase.douglas@canonical.com> wrote:
> > > Now that we have proper multitouch support, we can handle integrated
> > > buttons better. If we know the top of the buttons on the touchpad, we
> > > can ignore any touches that occur within the touchpad area while a
> > > button is clicked. It may be possible to get the button area by querying
> > > the device, but for now allow the user to manually set it.
> > >
> > > A note on why this works: the Synaptics touchpads have pseudo touch
> > > tracking. When two touches are on the touchpad, an MT touch packet with
> > > just the X, Y, and pressure values is sent before a normal Synaptics
> > > touch packet. When one touch is obviously in motion and the other is
> > > stationary, the touchpad controller sends the touch in motion in the
> > > normal packet and the stationary touch in the MT packet. Single touch
> > > emulation is provided by the normal packet, so an action like clicking
> > > a button and dragging with another finger still works as expected.
> > >
> > > Tested on a Dell Mini 1012 with synaptics_multitouch=1 and
> > > synaptics_button_thresh=4100.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Chase Douglas <chase.douglas@canonical.com>
> > > ---
> > >  drivers/input/mouse/synaptics.c |   16 +++++++++++++++-
> > >  1 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/drivers/input/mouse/synaptics.c b/drivers/input/mouse/synaptics.c
> > > index 7289d88..e67778d 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/input/mouse/synaptics.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/input/mouse/synaptics.c
> > > @@ -49,6 +49,12 @@ module_param(synaptics_multitouch, bool, 0644);
> > >  MODULE_PARM_DESC(synaptics_multitouch,
> > >                 "Enable multitouch mode on Synaptics devices");
> > >
> > > +static int synaptics_button_thresh = YMIN_NOMINAL + YMAX_NOMINAL;
> > > +module_param(synaptics_button_thresh, int, 0644);
> > > +MODULE_PARM_DESC(synaptics_button_thres,
> > > +                "Y coordinate threshold of integrated buttons on Synaptics "
> > > +                "devices");
> > > +
> > >  /*****************************************************************************
> > >  *     Stuff we need even when we do not want native Synaptics support
> > >  ****************************************************************************/
> > > @@ -463,6 +469,10 @@ static void synaptics_parse_hw_state(unsigned char buf[], struct synaptics_data
> > >        }
> > >  }
> > >
> > > +#define TOUCH_OVER_BUTTON(hw) (((hw).left || (hw).middle || (hw).right) && \
> > > +                              (YMAX_NOMINAL + YMIN_NOMINAL - (hw).y > \
> > > +                               synaptics_button_thresh))
> > > +
> > >  /*
> > >  *  called for each full received packet from the touchpad
> > >  */
> > > @@ -477,7 +487,7 @@ static void synaptics_process_packet(struct psmouse *psmouse)
> > >        synaptics_parse_hw_state(psmouse->packet, priv, &hw);
> > >
> > >        if (SYN_MULTITOUCH(priv, &hw)) {
> > > -               if (hw.z > 0) {
> > > +               if (hw.z > 0 && !TOUCH_OVER_BUTTON(hw)) {
> > >                        input_report_abs(dev, ABS_MT_POSITION_X, hw.x);
> > >                        input_report_abs(dev, ABS_MT_POSITION_Y,
> > >                                         YMAX_NOMINAL + YMIN_NOMINAL - hw.y);
> > > @@ -509,6 +519,10 @@ static void synaptics_process_packet(struct psmouse *psmouse)
> > >                return;
> > >        }
> > >
> > > +       /* If touch occurs over depressed button, ignore it */
> > > +       if (TOUCH_OVER_BUTTON(hw))
> > > +               hw.z = 0;
> > > +
> > >        if (hw.z > 0) {
> > >                priv->num_fingers++;
> > >                finger_width = 5;
> > > --
> > > 1.7.1
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > I'm convinced now that clickpad style touchpads can't work without
> > multi-touch and something like logic in xf86-input-multitouch.
> 
> Actually Clickpad works without multi-touch patch.  With my patches to
> synaptics, it worked in some level.  There are many restrictions (e.g.
> pushing the button first then drag), though.
> 

I am OK with devices not working perfectly with default/existing
drivers, but we should allow enough functionality (movement, primary
- left - click and so on) so that user can go through install and/or
upgrade of  userpsace component.

This also mean that we need to have userspace component available before
changing the behavior that will cause adverse effect for older setups.
Of course if we could avoid degrading older setups that would be even
better.

-- 
Dmitry

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From: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
To: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
Cc: Chris Bagwell <chris@cnpbagwell.com>,
	Chase Douglas <chase.douglas@canonical.com>,
	linux-input@vger.kernel.org, xorg-devel@lists.x.org,
	Andy Whitcroft <apw@canonical.com>,
	Henrik Rydberg <rydberg@euromail.se>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer@who-t.net>,
	Duncan McGreggor <duncan.mcgreggor@canonical.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] Input: synaptics - remove touches over button click area
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:30:16 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101011173015.GB27304@core.coreip.homeip.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <s5h7hho3bau.wl%tiwai@suse.de>

On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 07:10:33PM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> At Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:24:04 -0500,
> Chris Bagwell wrote:
> > 
> > On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Chase Douglas
> > <chase.douglas@canonical.com> wrote:
> > > Now that we have proper multitouch support, we can handle integrated
> > > buttons better. If we know the top of the buttons on the touchpad, we
> > > can ignore any touches that occur within the touchpad area while a
> > > button is clicked. It may be possible to get the button area by querying
> > > the device, but for now allow the user to manually set it.
> > >
> > > A note on why this works: the Synaptics touchpads have pseudo touch
> > > tracking. When two touches are on the touchpad, an MT touch packet with
> > > just the X, Y, and pressure values is sent before a normal Synaptics
> > > touch packet. When one touch is obviously in motion and the other is
> > > stationary, the touchpad controller sends the touch in motion in the
> > > normal packet and the stationary touch in the MT packet. Single touch
> > > emulation is provided by the normal packet, so an action like clicking
> > > a button and dragging with another finger still works as expected.
> > >
> > > Tested on a Dell Mini 1012 with synaptics_multitouch=1 and
> > > synaptics_button_thresh=4100.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Chase Douglas <chase.douglas@canonical.com>
> > > ---
> > >  drivers/input/mouse/synaptics.c |   16 +++++++++++++++-
> > >  1 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/drivers/input/mouse/synaptics.c b/drivers/input/mouse/synaptics.c
> > > index 7289d88..e67778d 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/input/mouse/synaptics.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/input/mouse/synaptics.c
> > > @@ -49,6 +49,12 @@ module_param(synaptics_multitouch, bool, 0644);
> > >  MODULE_PARM_DESC(synaptics_multitouch,
> > >                 "Enable multitouch mode on Synaptics devices");
> > >
> > > +static int synaptics_button_thresh = YMIN_NOMINAL + YMAX_NOMINAL;
> > > +module_param(synaptics_button_thresh, int, 0644);
> > > +MODULE_PARM_DESC(synaptics_button_thres,
> > > +                "Y coordinate threshold of integrated buttons on Synaptics "
> > > +                "devices");
> > > +
> > >  /*****************************************************************************
> > >  *     Stuff we need even when we do not want native Synaptics support
> > >  ****************************************************************************/
> > > @@ -463,6 +469,10 @@ static void synaptics_parse_hw_state(unsigned char buf[], struct synaptics_data
> > >        }
> > >  }
> > >
> > > +#define TOUCH_OVER_BUTTON(hw) (((hw).left || (hw).middle || (hw).right) && \
> > > +                              (YMAX_NOMINAL + YMIN_NOMINAL - (hw).y > \
> > > +                               synaptics_button_thresh))
> > > +
> > >  /*
> > >  *  called for each full received packet from the touchpad
> > >  */
> > > @@ -477,7 +487,7 @@ static void synaptics_process_packet(struct psmouse *psmouse)
> > >        synaptics_parse_hw_state(psmouse->packet, priv, &hw);
> > >
> > >        if (SYN_MULTITOUCH(priv, &hw)) {
> > > -               if (hw.z > 0) {
> > > +               if (hw.z > 0 && !TOUCH_OVER_BUTTON(hw)) {
> > >                        input_report_abs(dev, ABS_MT_POSITION_X, hw.x);
> > >                        input_report_abs(dev, ABS_MT_POSITION_Y,
> > >                                         YMAX_NOMINAL + YMIN_NOMINAL - hw.y);
> > > @@ -509,6 +519,10 @@ static void synaptics_process_packet(struct psmouse *psmouse)
> > >                return;
> > >        }
> > >
> > > +       /* If touch occurs over depressed button, ignore it */
> > > +       if (TOUCH_OVER_BUTTON(hw))
> > > +               hw.z = 0;
> > > +
> > >        if (hw.z > 0) {
> > >                priv->num_fingers++;
> > >                finger_width = 5;
> > > --
> > > 1.7.1
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > I'm convinced now that clickpad style touchpads can't work without
> > multi-touch and something like logic in xf86-input-multitouch.
> 
> Actually Clickpad works without multi-touch patch.  With my patches to
> synaptics, it worked in some level.  There are many restrictions (e.g.
> pushing the button first then drag), though.
> 

I am OK with devices not working perfectly with default/existing
drivers, but we should allow enough functionality (movement, primary
- left - click and so on) so that user can go through install and/or
upgrade of  userpsace component.

This also mean that we need to have userspace component available before
changing the behavior that will cause adverse effect for older setups.
Of course if we could avoid degrading older setups that would be even
better.

-- 
Dmitry
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-11 17:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-08 14:57 [PATCH 0/3] Input: synaptics - multitouch and multifinger support Chase Douglas
2010-10-08 14:57 ` [PATCH 1/3] Input: synaptics - add multitouch support Chase Douglas
2010-10-08 14:57   ` [PATCH 2/3] Input: synaptics - add multitouch multifinger support Chase Douglas
2010-10-08 14:58     ` [PATCH 3/3] Input: synaptics - remove touches over button click area Chase Douglas
2010-10-10 15:58       ` Chris Bagwell
2010-10-11 16:24       ` Chris Bagwell
2010-10-11 16:24         ` Chris Bagwell
2010-10-11 17:10         ` Takashi Iwai
2010-10-11 17:10           ` Takashi Iwai
2010-10-11 17:30           ` Dmitry Torokhov [this message]
2010-10-11 17:30             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-11 17:40             ` Takashi Iwai
2010-10-11 17:46           ` Chris Bagwell
2010-10-11 17:46             ` Chris Bagwell
2010-10-11 17:54             ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-10-11 18:29             ` Takashi Iwai
2010-10-11 18:29               ` Takashi Iwai
2010-10-10 15:44     ` [PATCH 2/3] Input: synaptics - add multitouch multifinger support Chris Bagwell
2010-10-10 15:37   ` [PATCH 1/3] Input: synaptics - add multitouch support Chris Bagwell
2010-10-10 15:41   ` Chris Bagwell
2010-10-08 16:37 ` [PATCH 0/3] Input: synaptics - multitouch and multifinger support Takashi Iwai
2010-10-08 16:38   ` Takashi Iwai
2010-10-08 17:48     ` Takashi Iwai
2010-10-08 17:15   ` Chase Douglas
2010-10-08 17:46     ` Takashi Iwai
2010-10-08 18:04     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-08 19:31       ` Takashi Iwai
2010-10-10 21:04         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-11  7:35           ` Takashi Iwai
2010-10-11  7:48             ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-10-11  7:59               ` Takashi Iwai
2010-10-11 13:41               ` Chris Bagwell
2010-10-11 13:41                 ` Chris Bagwell
2010-10-11 14:01                 ` Takashi Iwai
2010-10-11 14:01                   ` Takashi Iwai
2010-10-11 14:24                   ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-10-11 14:49                     ` Takashi Iwai
2010-10-11 15:31                       ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-10-11 15:58                         ` Takashi Iwai
2010-10-10  7:49   ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-10-10 20:59     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-11  7:28       ` Takashi Iwai
2010-10-11  7:40         ` Henrik Rydberg

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