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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: blauwirbel@gmail.com, alex.williamson@redhat.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 4/8] Store IDE bus id in IDEBus structure for easy access.
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 20:44:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101105184456.GD9617@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m37hgr7mvp.fsf@blackfin.pond.sub.org>

On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 05:31:38PM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com> writes:
> 
> > On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 03:04:05PM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> [...]
> >> >> >> There has been quite some discussion on "canonical path" on the list,
> >> >> >> but no consensus.  Ironically, one of the places where we got stuck was
> >> >> >> ISA.  You cut right through that, so that's progress.  Maybe people
> >> >> >> aren't looking ;)
> >> >> > That is funny since the problem was already solved looong time ago. Just
> >> >> > look at Open Firmware device path. They are capable of addressing all
> >> >> > devices just fine, ISA devices included. What specific problem you had
> >> >> > with ISA bus? 
> >> >> 
> >> >> Lack of consensus.  I was in favour of using I/O base, just like you do.
> >> >> There were worries about ISA devices not using any I/O ports.
> >> > There is a solution for that problem for almost 15 years and we are
> >> > still looking for consensus on qemu list?! Here is ISA device binding
> >> > spec for Open Firmware: http://playground.sun.com/1275/bindings/isa/isa0_4d.ps 
> >> > If ISA device have no IO ports MMIO is used.
> >> 
> >> Precedence should promote consensus, but it can't replace it.  If you
> >> can push the list to consensus, more power to you.
> > I do not see disagreement right now :) You are saying you agree. Blue
> > Swirl asked me to use Open Firmware so I assume he agrees to. So who is
> > against and what are his arguments?
> 
> Start here:
> 
> http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2010-06/msg01618.html

I saw this in fact. The wouldn't agree with this device path proposal
too. It mixes qemu internal names (which is a big no-no for my purpose)
and bus addresses. Paul made sensible points there and if you look
closely what he proposes is what I implemented here. Regarding ISA
("busses that don't have a consistent addressing scheme" he called it)
he himself proposed to use address of the first IO port/memory region
as an ID. This is what is already implemented by my patch.

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-05 18:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-31 11:40 [PATCHv2 0/8 RFC] boot order specification Gleb Natapov
2010-10-31 11:40 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
2010-10-31 11:40 ` [PATCHv2 1/8] Introduce deriver_name field to DeviceInfo structure Gleb Natapov
2010-10-31 11:40   ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
2010-11-04  9:20   ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-04  9:20     ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-04  9:42     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-04  9:42       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-04 14:58       ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-04 15:44         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-05 14:14           ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-05 15:41             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-05 16:24               ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-05 18:31                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-06  9:01                   ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-06 11:53                     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-06 12:55                       ` Markus Armbruster
2010-10-31 11:40 ` [PATCHv2 2/8] Keep track of ISA ports ISA device is using in qdev Gleb Natapov
2010-10-31 11:40   ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
2010-10-31 11:40 ` [PATCHv2 3/8] Add get_dev_path callback to ISA bus " Gleb Natapov
2010-10-31 11:40   ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
2010-10-31 11:40 ` [PATCHv2 4/8] Store IDE bus id in IDEBus structure for easy access Gleb Natapov
2010-10-31 11:40   ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
2010-11-03 13:39   ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-03 13:39     ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-03 13:47     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-03 13:47       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-03 15:18       ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-03 16:43         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-03 17:22           ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-04  8:07             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-04  8:46               ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-04  9:23                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-04 14:22                   ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-04 15:26                     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-05 14:04                       ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-05 15:54                         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-05 16:31                           ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-05 18:44                             ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2010-11-06  9:25                               ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-06 11:37                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-06 12:46                                   ` Markus Armbruster
2010-10-31 11:40 ` [PATCHv2 5/8] Add get_dev_path callback to IDE bus Gleb Natapov
2010-10-31 11:40   ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
2010-10-31 11:40 ` [PATCHv2 6/8] Add get_dev_path callback for system bus Gleb Natapov
2010-10-31 11:40   ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
2010-10-31 11:40 ` [PATCHv2 7/8] Change pci bus get_dev_path callback to print only slot and func Gleb Natapov
2010-10-31 11:40   ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
2010-11-08 17:17   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-08 17:17     ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-08 17:29     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-08 17:29       ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
2010-11-08 18:12       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-08 18:12         ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-08 18:22         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-08 18:22           ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
2010-11-08 21:00       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-08 21:00         ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-08 21:12         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-08 21:12           ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
2010-11-08 17:26   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-08 17:26     ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-10-31 11:40 ` [PATCHv2 8/8] Add bootindex parameter to net/block/fd device Gleb Natapov
2010-10-31 11:40   ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
2010-10-31 22:25 ` [PATCHv2 0/8 RFC] boot order specification Kevin O'Connor
2010-10-31 22:25   ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin O'Connor
2010-11-01  7:53   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-01  7:53     ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
2010-11-04  9:24     ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-04  9:45       ` Gleb Natapov

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