From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932435Ab0KPWwv (ORCPT ); Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:52:51 -0500 Received: from earthlight.etchedpixels.co.uk ([81.2.110.250]:50181 "EHLO www.etchedpixels.co.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755444Ab0KPWwu (ORCPT ); Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:52:50 -0500 Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 22:51:38 +0000 From: Alan Cox To: Lennart Poettering Cc: Kay Sievers , linux-kernel , Greg KH , Werner Fink , Jiri Slaby Subject: Re: tty: add 'active' sysfs attribute to tty0 and console device Message-ID: <20101116225138.4e09f4dc@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <20101116214250.GB17824@tango.0pointer.de> References: <1289922400.1253.3.camel@yio.site> <20101116155717.6671e484@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20101116171447.29336514@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20101116195538.7fa66b97@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20101116204906.29d840e9@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20101116214250.GB17824@tango.0pointer.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.18.9; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 22:42:50 +0100 Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Tue, 16.11.10 20:49, Alan Cox (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) wrote: > > > /dev/tty* and sysfs nodes don't track permissions, owner with each other, > > so you are providing interfaces that either expose information they > > shouldn't (which screen is valuable info in some environments), or don't > > expose info they should. > > Well, I find the informatoin who is logged in much more valuable then > the information whether I am active or not. Well thats fine for your machine, what about the rest of us ?